Episode 26: Speed

On this episode of The Regular Guy Movie Show, we hit the gas and never let up as we revisit the 1994 action classic Speed.

Join Seth, Justin, and Brian as they break down the movie that turned a city bus into one of the most stressful vehicles in cinematic history. From the legendary “Pop Quiz, Hotshot” moments to the completely unreasonable freeway jump, the guys dive into what makes Speed such a relentless adrenaline rush nearly 30 years later.

Along the way, they discuss:

• Keanu Reeves becoming an action star 
• Sandra Bullock’s breakout performance 
• Dennis Hopper stealing every scene as Howard Payne 
•  The practical effects and stunt work that still hold up today 
•  Why the movie’s simple premise works so incredibly well 
•  Whether the subway finale goes just a little too far off the rails 

Plus:

•  A chaotic round of “Pop Quiz, Hotshot” 
•  Pick Your Poison matchups 
•  Boddicker Award discussion 
•  Plenty of laughs, nostalgia, and questionable transportation decisions 

So grab a drink, keep it above 50, and come ride shotgun with us.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

A city wired like a ticking time bomb. A madman with a grudge and a very aggressive opinion about speed limits. What if your daily commute suddenly had higher stakes than your mortgage? And what if cruise control became a lifestyle, not a feature? And what if die hard ditched the skyscraper, hijacked a city bus, and said, We're going for a ride? Well, this is speed, where the brakes are optional, the logic is negotiable, and Keanu Reeves is now public transit's last line of defense. And we're gonna get into it on this episode of the Regular Guy Movie Show.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

Lights go down, let's sit play. Regular guys got something to say. The regular guy movie show talking flips. Here we go.

SPEAKER_04 1:19

I'm Seth and joining me as always are two guys I would absolutely trust behind the wheel of a speeding bus, Justin and Brian. Gentlemen, are you ready to get into it, or should we just keep this conversation moving and hope nothing explodes? Don't get dead, Seth.

SPEAKER_05 1:38

Don't get dead. You know, podcasts based on trauma never last. So we're gonna have to base this one on sex.

SPEAKER_04 1:48

Well, before we put the pedal to the metal, what do you guys say we take a moment and talk about what we're drinking tonight? Yeah, yeah, Brian.

SPEAKER_12 1:59

Yeah, Brian, what are we drinking tonight?

SPEAKER_05 2:01

Let's talk about what we're drinking tonight, Brian. Well, I had a bit of a surprise for everybody. Since this movie's speed, movie about a bomb on a bus, I decided to make us carbombs. Irish car bombs. What's in those, Brian? Alright, for those who don't know, an Irish car bomb is a pint of Guinness with a shot glass, half of Jamison Irish whiskey, half of Bailey's Irish cream, and you drop the shot into the pint of Guinness, and you have to chug it.

SPEAKER_06 2:30

And why do you have to chug it, Brian?

SPEAKER_04 2:32

Oh, you have to chug it before the cream curdles. Gross. I love drinks that curdle.

SPEAKER_06 2:39

That doesn't make me feel nauseous at all. I I thought it was rather tasty. It was really good. Never had one before just now.

SPEAKER_04 2:46

It went down way smoother than I thought it would.

SPEAKER_05 2:49

It did go down smooth. You know, so Guinness is a smooth drink anyway, you know? Had that little nitro ball in the can, so it was nice and smooth, tiny bubbles. And then you had uh the flavor of the Irish whiskey, but not so much the sting. And then you had the Bailey's, which kind of smoothed everything out. Yeah, a little sweet. Made it a little creamier and sweeter. I thought it was delightful. It was pretty good. Now, it made my cheeks hot.

SPEAKER_06 3:14

My chest is nice and toasty. Yeah. I feel a little warm.

SPEAKER_04 3:18

Yeah. Yeah, so that's how we started the night tonight was a little Irish carbon. But we're continuing with another pick of Brian's.

SPEAKER_06 3:24

Yeah, so just jump right in number two.

SPEAKER_04 3:27

That was my surprise pick. My normal pick is the Sweetwater Extra Pale Ale 420. And how is this a pick for the movie? Well, that's a pick for the movie because on the label, the um extra pale 420 label is an interstate sign.

SPEAKER_05 3:45

Interstate road sign.

SPEAKER_17 3:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 3:46

And since the bus was on the interstate quite a bit, especially the section that was out, it makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 3:51

It made sense. Now, this is a uh this is a pretty clean tasting pale ale. I think it's a nice complement to what we had earlier.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Yeah, I mean it it it's uh the opposite end of the spectrum. It is for sure.

SPEAKER_06 4:07

Now I do feel like and I I like sweetwater beers. There's they make a lot of good beers. Uh this one I felt was not overly hoppy, which is nice and approachable, but I thought it was a little on the thin side. You know, and I don't know if that's because of what thick thing we just drank.

SPEAKER_11 4:24

It could be. But I I agree, for being an extra pale ale, I thought it was a little light on the flavor.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

Do you like thick things in your mouth? I I don't know how to respond to that. All right. Yep. The sweet water. If I had a friend who came to me and said, hey, I'm thinking about getting into craft beer, the 420 is probably one of the first things I would tell them to try out. Yeah, it's a nice little entryway into the training wheels to it, but it's still enjoyable even once you had a bit more experience on the craft beer side. Great lawn mowing beer. Not bad at all. I drink that after mowing some lawns. Oh, heck yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:01

It's refreshing, it's crisp, it's clean, it has some hoppy flavor, but it doesn't rape your mouth. Sure doesn't. No, no, no, I'm bad.

SPEAKER_04 5:10

I could use actually, I could use, and I'm not a hop head. I could use a little more hop flavor on this. Yeah. Whoa. Now that's saying something.

SPEAKER_05 5:17

You guys have corrupted my palate.

SPEAKER_04 5:19

Well, we are talking about the movie speed on this episode of the podcast. And um, when when did you guys first watch speed?

SPEAKER_03 5:27

So mine's kind of a boring story. Um, I was 12 when it came out. I'm pretty sure that my parents, this is a rental for them.

SPEAKER_06 5:36

I probably saw parts of it passing through the living room. I wasn't really interested. It's not geared towards a 12-year-old by any means. Right. Um, so I know I saw parts of this over the years, but my first real rewatch from beginning to end was uh last night.

SPEAKER_11 5:54

Interesting.

SPEAKER_06 5:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:56

Now I saw this in the movie theater. Okay. Um, I was on a date. Um it was a date movie. Speed dating. It was pretty corny. It was. Um, I don't remember what girl it was with. So if if she's listening and she remembers I'm sorry. Um you were not memorable. Didn't make a huge impression, uh I guess. Um but yeah, I saw this in the movie theater, and and I don't believe I've seen it on, you know, reruns, cable, things like that. I've seen it on, but but I don't think I'd sit down and and watched it start to finish since I saw it in the movie theater.

SPEAKER_04 6:30

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I I did not see speed in the movie theater, but I did see speed two on a date. Oh I don't know if there was a second date after that. Yeah. Uh, but but as far as the original speed, you know, saw it rental, watched it at a buddy's house, watched it multiple times when I was in high school, saw it a few times when I was in college, but haven't seen it in decades from beginning to end until today.

SPEAKER_05 6:54

Yeah. Now, if I remember right, this movie was a bit of a part of pop culture.

SPEAKER_04 7:00

Oh, absolutely was. I mean, even if you had not seen it, you had seen enough of it to know what it was about. Agreed, for sure. I agree with all of it. It, it, it. It was good. Um, but yeah, you know, yeah, it was instantly cemented into the annals of pop culture. Um bits and scenes have been borrowed multiple times over the years. And I think that one of the biggest things you can credit for is that it was a launching pad for two of the biggest careers in Hollywood. Oh, yeah, for sure. And that'd be Keanu Reeves, who'd been in some stuff. He'd been in a few things, but this is. Yeah, his introduction really to the large world saying, hey, Keanu Reeves is an action star, you could do some stuff with him. Sure. And then you have America's Sweetheart. Sandra Bullock. Joe Morton.

SPEAKER_03 8:09

No, no, not Joe Bullock. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 8:13

Sandra Bullock.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Oh, Sandra Bullock, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:15

Yeah. She is cutie. Cutie patootie. Cutie patootie indeed. But uh, yeah, so so if in case anyone has not seen speed and has no idea what we're talking about, why don't you say we pause for a moment and enjoy a little story time with Brian?

SPEAKER_17 8:33

Brian, tell us a story.

SPEAKER_04 8:35

Alright, so this story is about speed.

SPEAKER_11 8:39

The drug apropos came out in 1994 and it's rated R.

SPEAKER_05 8:46

So Speed follows LAPD officer Jack Traven, who stumbles into a deadly game set in motion by Howard Payne, a former Bob Squad member with a taste for chaos. Well, after Jack narrowly prevents an elevator full of people from becoming a tragedy, he believes the nightmare's over. Until Payne returns with a new twist on his game.

SPEAKER_11 9:11

Now this time the curse is placed on a city bus. If it slows before 50 miles per hour, it will explode. Once the bus is unknowingly set in motion, Jack boards it like a knight, stepping onto a moving battlefield, determined to keep everyone alive and bring the unseen villain to justice. Now, among the passengers is Annie Porter, an ordinary traveler swept up into an impossible situation, forced to adapt quickly as the bus barrels through the city like a runaway carriage with no brakes. What follows is a tale of urgency and ingenuity, where the road never ends, the danger never rests, and survival depends on keeping this story moving forward at all costs.

SPEAKER_04 10:01

What a good story. And Brian, how did Speed do in the box office? Okay, well, Speed was a major box office success.

SPEAKER_05 10:12

It had a production budget of about $30 million, and it went on to gross approximately $350 worldwide.

SPEAKER_09 10:19

Damn.

SPEAKER_11 10:21

In the US and Canada Canada alone, it earned around $121 million, making it one of the standout action hits of 1994.

SPEAKER_04 10:29

Nice.

SPEAKER_11 10:30

None too shabby. Very nice. Yeah, and you know, I think some of the some of the success came from how it was marketed.

SPEAKER_05 10:40

Yeah. Because like you mentioned earlier, Seth, you didn't have to see this movie to know what it was about. No. Everybody already knew. Because it was I I don't know if they market movies like that so much anymore. Yeah. But then again, who watches commercials much anymore?

SPEAKER_04 10:52

That's true. Not I, if I can avoid it. But ultimately it ended up being one of the biggest movies of 1994. There was a lot of competition that year. It was a pretty decent year for movies. In 1994? Yeah, in 94. In fact, as it turned out, Speed was the sixth highest rated movie or ranking movie in terms of worldwide box office that year. Any idea what else may have been? Oh gosh. There's five others. What do you think? Uh 94. Jump in the Wayback Machine. Justin, you got this.

SPEAKER_11 11:22

What do you got? For a scump.

SPEAKER_04 11:23

Yeah, that's number two. That's number two. 678 million dollars. It's like I read your notes or something. You look at the reflection off my glasses because No.

SPEAKER_12 11:33

No. No.

SPEAKER_04 11:35

When wouldn't be when did T2 come out? I think that was 91. Uh that's not close. I'm not I'm not good at it. I'm usually better at this game.

SPEAKER_05 11:45

I'm drawing a blank. Maybe it's the car bomb.

SPEAKER_04 11:47

All right. Well, I'll tell you, I'll give you a hint. The top-rated movie or the top grossing movie that year was animated. Animated. 94. 94 animation. What is it? 968 million dollars. Why are tickets to Disney World so expensive? That is Doctor Evil money. Other movies that did better than speed. We have True Lies with 378 million, Mrs. Doubtfire with 441 million, and The Mask with 351 million did just slightly better. I'm surprised the mask did that good.

SPEAKER_11 12:26

I didn't like that movie.

SPEAKER_04 12:27

Now it's not a good one. As we mentioned earlier, this is the movie that really, I think for a lot of people, put Kiana Reeves and Sandra Bullock on the map. And it it is still, despite the fact both have done a lot of movies since, both rank Speed amongst our highest grossing films still. Okay. Really? Uh Keanu Reeves now Well, he was he was had a few franchises which really helped him out. So Speed is his sixth highest grossing movie. In front of it, we have The Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix, John Wick Chapter 4, John Wick Chapter 3, and The Matrix Revolutions.

SPEAKER_06 13:06

Okay. That makes sense. Lots of Matrix John Wicks.

SPEAKER_04 13:09

Yeah, lots of Matrix and John Wicks. Did you guys see all the Matrix Matrices? I've seen all the Matrices, but I have a secret to tell you. That's all. I've never yet seen a John Wick.

unknown 13:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:19

I've even seen John Wicks. I know, which is crazy. So I've seen all the John Wicks. And here's here's what's interesting. I don't even know how. Because it got to, and part of the reason I haven't seen any John Wicks is somehow I was completely unaware. I was oblivious of the existence of John Wick until John Wick III came out. Okay. And suddenly I heard people talk about have you seen John Wick III? I'm like, I didn't even know what there was a John Wick 1.

SPEAKER_05 13:43

I was the same way. I saw John Wick II, and then I went back and saw John Wick 1 after I saw John Wick 2.

SPEAKER_04 13:49

And so I have it in my palm pilot that the next time I have COVID. The next time you have COVID. And I am down for the count for multiple days on end. John Wick, I'm gonna plow through them.

SPEAKER_06 14:03

I can't see the world for two weeks.

SPEAKER_04 14:05

That's right. You're all set when you get the whole uh woohan woo. When you get the vid. Woo-han wheeze. Woo-hand wheeze. Now now Sandra Bullock, uh, speed is similarly ranked. It it's her fifth highest grossing movie. Um, any ideas what may have done better? Sandy Bullock. I gotta think Gravity. Gravity is number two with $723 million. I've not seen that one. I I've not seen it either. But that looks like a movie I would see, but I didn't see it. Uh Miss Congeniality. Miss Congeniality is number seven on my list at 212 million. It's number one in my heart. You know what's number one in my heart? The proposal. Ah, that's a good one. Well, that's number four at 317. Okay. Now wait a minute. God bless you, Chat GPT. That's below speed, because speed is 350 million. So speed is number four. The proposal is number five. Okay. All right. I I wouldn't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 15:04

Um, she was a witch. What was that one? A witch. Yeah, she was one of the witches with uh what's her name who was married to Tom Cruise? Witches of Eastwick?

SPEAKER_11 15:15

No, not that one. Uh oh, what's it called? Uh Practical Magic. Practical magic. Practical magic. Is that the girl? I don't see that on my list.

SPEAKER_04 15:25

Katie Holmes? Yeah. Katie Holmes, I don't know. Married to Tom Cruise? Well, she was. No, the other one. Nicole Kidman? Nicole Kidman was Nicole Kidman. Yeah. No, not on my list. But that doesn't mean because apparently ChatGPT is incredibly unreliable. Get with it, Carl. Carl. Um but movies I I did definitely do better than speed. Minions at $1.16 billion. That's crazy. Oh, that's a lot of minions. Uh also. So many minions. Yeah, that's uh that's it. So yeah, that that's she's done some big things. Now, now Dennis Hopper. Dennis Hopper. This is his top grossing movie ever. Ever. Uh, and he had quite the career. And Everbob? Other movies in his repertoire that come, you know, at least are in the ballpark. Uh, we have Waterworld at 264. Waterworld, except for one thing. Hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_06 16:21

Waterworld's not bad. Do you do you have something to say about the kid in Waterworld, Brian?

SPEAKER_04 16:28

Yeah. He's been harboring this for a while. Yeah. I you know, I keep him hearing him to talk about how he has thoughts about it, but I've never heard the thoughts. I've not heard the thoughts. She was awful. Absolutely awful.

SPEAKER_05 16:41

You could have put like a CPR dummy as her character, and they would have done better than that little precocious punk. Ooh. She ruined that movie. Now I gotta watch it just to be a good thing. Waterworld was actually a pretty good movie.

SPEAKER_04 16:54

I have a soft spot for Waterworld. I mean, it gets a bad reputation, but I th I I like it. It got a bad reputation because it was so far over budget, but it was uh an apocalyptic uh yeah. Any movie that starts off with a dude drinking its own pee, I'm good with. Okay, what's better? Waterworld or the postman? The postman. Postman's better. Is it? Yeah. They're both they're both good epics. But but I like the Postman. And I'm okay with you using the word epic because they're both Kevin Costner films. Yeah, and they're like four hours long. I mean, that's two of the criteria right there. It has to be, yeah, a film greater than four hours, a Kevin Costner movie, or a book of a thousand pages.

SPEAKER_06 17:30

Are they really four hours long? No, but they're long. They're long. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_05 17:34

Kind of like uh Dances with Wolves is another Costner epic.

SPEAKER_06 17:37

Is that Brad Pitt?

SPEAKER_04 17:41

Other Dennis Hopper movies in this top ten, uh, Apocalypse Now, True Romance, Hoosiers, Blue Velvet, Easy Rider, Super Mario Brothers, and Land of the Dead. That is some variety. He's got a whole big variety. Well, he's got a catalog. That's a cornucopia. Outside the money, um, how do people like speed?

SPEAKER_06 18:04

All right. So Rotten Tomatoes has a certified fresh score of 95% based on 78 reviews from critics. Oh. And a popcorn meter of 77% based on over 250,000 viewer ratings. That's a pretty high critic score. That's a huge critic score, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:20

Is that is that the highest critic score of a movie we've done?

SPEAKER_04 18:23

I if it's not, I would be surprised. Yeah, it'd be pretty close.

SPEAKER_05 18:26

You mean Dirty Dancing wasn't higher? Dirty Dancing was like we weren't tracking it at that point.

SPEAKER_03 18:30

Yeah, that's true, but I go back and look.

SPEAKER_05 18:32

You know what's interesting? In my mind, I flip-flop those numbers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 18:37

You know, for me, watching it non-critically is just for pure entertainment. Man, I I was entertained. I thought it was pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 18:45

But watching it critically, I I'm not sure I would rate it 95. But I I don't know. I I think I that's weird to me.

SPEAKER_05 18:54

I would flip-flop those numbers.

SPEAKER_04 18:56

Yeah, I think there are from the the film nerd perspective of critic critic uh criticizing movies. There are some things that are actually really cool about this movie. The relentless pacing. Oh, yeah. Oh my goodness. It it it's Mike, I got cardio watching this movie. It really stood up to its name. Um did your watch say, Are you doing a workout? Yeah, you probably did. You hit the no, I'm just watching speed button on your uh your watch. The and you know, that's one of those things, you love it or you hate it, but if you're into it, you love it, like really love it. And if nothing else, if you're into film nerd kind of stuff, you look at at least respect it. Right. I could see that. The practical stunts. Wow. Oh, you're right. They did some crazy stuff in real life.

SPEAKER_05 19:45

You're not wrong there. And I just wanted to, and I have it in my notes, what a shout out to the stunt team. Yeah, they that was amazing stuff.

SPEAKER_04 19:52

It was all practical. And they did a great job. And I think it's amazing. I do I think some respect's got to go to Dennis Hopper. He's such a known actor, lend his name to this project, and he's somehow unhinged but still in control. And then you have really look for those who reviewed this film after the fact, the nostalgia factor, and that this is the launch pad for Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock. Yeah, there's that. And I think that kind of softens using the criticism. Budding and budding stars stars with tons of promise.

SPEAKER_05 20:26

But that's before she married a Jesse James, who was married to a porn star. Yeah. Broke up with a porn star and then married the girl next door.

SPEAKER_04 20:38

That's a lot of Marys. Yeah. Yeah. That's too many Marys. But this is before that. Now, now, also from the film nerd side, this movie won a couple Academy Awards. I did not know that. Probably for best actor Keanu Reeves. Not at all. No, no. Technical awards. Okay. Now, which mean nothing to most people, but I appreciate them because there are two things I care about quite a bit: best sound and best sound effects editing.

SPEAKER_05 21:06

You know, I could see the best sound effects because all the stunts and explosions and things going on.

SPEAKER_04 21:10

And it all felt natural. Yeah, I didn't I didn't notice it. Or I didn't notice anything out of place, I guess. Yeah. And that to me, that's the win. When you can have these things and sound and the sound design, when you don't notice it and it feels natural, it's good. You know the trickiest part, I think, for the sound design was when the subway went off the tracks and was crashing and hitting all the I-beams and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_05 21:37

It was just a calamity of noise and and energy, and I it I didn't hear anything that I thought was out of place. And you know what that must have been hard to do.

SPEAKER_04 21:51

Ah, amazing. That's probably because it was made in the nineties, not the one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_05 21:57

A UGA. Yeah, um which I actually said early on in the movie. Yeah. Did you turn into a wolf? An owl. And my eyes came out. My heels were clicking. Your jaw drop, tongue rolled out. When we get into the movie, I'll tell you what part that is. Okay. If you can't guess. I already know what it is. I think I know exactly the spot.

SPEAKER_04 22:23

Hammina Hamina Hamina Hamina. This movie was uh was directed by Yon debont. Yon debont. I I assume that's how you pronounce his name. Jan. It's spelled J A N, so it could be Jan, but I think it's more fun to say Jan. Yon debont. Yon debont sounds like a confection. Could could could be Yan. Now this was this was Jan's directorial debut. Uh way to come out of the shoot. Prior to this, his work was as a cinematographer, and he shot some very visually iconic films, including Die Hard, The Hunt for Red October, great, and Basic Instinct. Those are three quality flicks. And for this being his debut as a director, I mean, he really came out as a bit of a madman because he insisted on practical stunts wherever possible, which worked. And from what I've read, uh he basically his standing directive directive to his casting crew were that let's try it at full speed and see what happens. Yeah, I I like that. I think that's cool. Fuck yo safety. Yeah. Uh after this, he had a few other movies that you've probably heard of that he directed. Twister. Mm-hmm. You know, so basically speed with tornadoes. Okay. Yeah. And then speed to cruise control, which is basically speed but very slow. But they can use cruise control. Well, it's on a cruise ship.

SPEAKER_06 23:53

Oh, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 23:55

Good to see it. The writer of this movie is someone I am very familiar familiar with his work. Who's that? Uh his name's Graham Yost. Graham Yost. This was his first produced screenplay, but he had other work in the writing field, including 13 episodes of Nickelodeon's show. Hey dude. Oh, hell yeah. Hey dude. That's right. Because it's a little wild and a little strange. When you make your home down on the rain. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

Start your horse and come along. Cause you can't get around Gandhold on. Take a Seth. Yaya. Yppie Kaya. What? What the cowboys say? Sing it again now. Yppy Kaya.

SPEAKER_04 24:47

Get along, little doggy. You know what? I'm a little bit out of the loop here. Yeah. Is this a Donnie Darko reference? No, no, no. But those will be coming. There will be plenty. Um, oh no. But no, this was this was a live-action Nickelodeon show in the 90s about high school kids working at a dude ranch. It was amazingly awful. Hey, hey, I'm so glad that you recognize it. Because I was I went in tonight. I was even driving on the way here. I'm like, I hope, I hope, I hope one of these other two jokers have watched Hey Dude. Yeah, absolutely I did.

SPEAKER_05 25:17

God, I remember Nickelodeon. I remember Pinwheel. And you can't do that on television. Pinwheel was cool.

SPEAKER_04 25:23

But then after that, I kind of I kind of grew up.

SPEAKER_11 25:27

Did you Okay, okay, okay, all right, all right.

SPEAKER_09 25:30

Let's forget Brian's here.

SPEAKER_05 25:31

Actually, actually, you know what it is? For a big chunk of my, especially later childhood, I lived overseas. That's sad. And we didn't get Nickelodeon.

SPEAKER_11 25:40

We had one channel, AFN, on Horses Network.

SPEAKER_04 25:43

So I so I missed a bunch of pop culture. Hey, Justin. Uh-huh. Just you and me now for a moment. Yeah, just me and you. What was your favorite Nickelodeon show when you were a kid? Oh man. Like animated or live?

SPEAKER_03 25:53

Oh, no, I'm it's just live action. Live action? Let's stick with the live action. Okay. Uh man, Alex Mack was really good. That wasn't bad. That was a good one.

SPEAKER_06 26:02

She was hot. Salute your shorts? When I was a kid. Salute your shorts.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

Oh, that's the best one.

SPEAKER_04 26:06

That was a good one. Salute your shorts. That was the best. Our uh oh yeah, Camp on a ugly. When I think about you, it makes me want to fart. That's highbrow. You know what? You know what? Where do you stand on Pete and Pete?

SPEAKER_03 26:21

Pete and Pete was great. Oh that was my favorite, I think. Ah, what was that? A weird guy's name, Arnie.

SPEAKER_04 26:26

Yeah, Artie.

SPEAKER_03 26:27

Artie. The strongest man in the world.

SPEAKER_04 26:30

I think who is actually a very damn good actor, and I've seen him and stuff all the time now. Really? Yeah. You know what Brian had that we didn't have overseas? What's that?

SPEAKER_06 26:39

Shampoo commercials that showed boobs. Yep. We didn't get that here in the States. Helped me get through puberty. I bet it did. I bet it did. I bet if they had that here in the United States, it would have helped a lot more other guys get through puberty as well.

SPEAKER_05 26:53

Okay, so it was really weird on German television. They wouldn't have commercials during a show. They would have a block of commercials like at seven o'clock in the evening. You'd have 30 minutes of commercials.

SPEAKER_06 27:05

30 minutes. Yeah, but then you'd have show, show, show, show, show, but no commercials. 30 minutes of naked boobs in the shower washing hair. Not all commercials were shampoo commercials. There were some bar soap commercials. But probably enough. Yeah.

unknown 27:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:21

Let's just say you got the job done. Enough in the 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_04 27:27

So getting back to speed. Yeah, speed. Anyway, so Graham Yoast, Graham Yoast uh came up with a real simple concept. A bomb on a bus that explodes if it drives below 50 miles an hour. Genius. That was it. That was the concept. It was easy to understand, immediate stakes with zero wasted time. And it basically so the script was pretty much a pressure cooker with wheels. The idea, though, I guess apparently was originally inspired by action films like Runaway Train, but he wanted to something that'd be a little bit more simple, a little bit more brutally efficient, a little bit more approachable. So hey, what's more approachable than train? A bus. A bus. I I thought the idea behind this movie was phenomenal. Yeah. I thought it was great.

SPEAKER_06 28:08

It's a great movie.

SPEAKER_03 28:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:09

Great movie movie. Now, fun fact, did you know that this movie was not originally called Speed? No. What was it called? Minimum Speed. Ooh. That would have been a flop. It would have been a flop. Because it sounds like a DMV training movie. It does. It does. I'm glad they changed it.

SPEAKER_06 28:26

Right. It's kind of like the whole the Facebook thing. Yeah. Yeah. You know, somebody was smart enough to say drop the the and just go. Somebody was smart enough to say drop the minimum.

SPEAKER_04 28:35

Yeah, they were good plan. You know what? It was the least they could do. And I think I think whoever that person was, Graham Yost will thank them because he went on to a lot of other projects. Uh a lot of more recently TV work and some things that I know you're gonna know, Brian. He uh was a writer on Band of Brothers, The Pacific, and a show that you and I both thoroughly enjoyed, Falling Skies. Loved it. Yeah, yeah. Noah Wiley Against Aliens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The the Skeeters. And he's the creator of two shows I really love and cannot recommend enough. Justified. I heard it was good. Yeah. FX show with Timothy Oliphant and Walton Goggins. It's kind of like a modern western, but set in rural Kentucky. I like both those guys. You would enjoy Justified. It's it's modern gunslinger in Cold Country. That's cool. Nice. And then Silo, which is a post-apocalyptic TV show set entirely in an underground silo. You had me at post-apocalyptic. It's got Tim Robbins in it, Common is in it. Rebecca Ferguson's in it. Yeah. It's good. I like it. It's on Apple TV. Did you know Common was also in uh the John Wicks? I did not because I haven't seen the John Wicks, as we've previously discussed. I love movies about silos. So yeah, people have done some things. But that's the people behind the camera. Well, you know what's cool? A lot of the people, not just the actors, but a lot of the people behind, you know, behind the camera.

SPEAKER_05 30:06

Man, this was their stepping off too.

SPEAKER_04 30:07

It absolutely was. There's so many people who went in the city. Are you saying that K dude wasn't a launching pad? I am. Damn it, Brian.

SPEAKER_05 30:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:15

I take issue.

SPEAKER_04 30:16

A little wild and a little strange. K dude was a stepping stone, not a launching pad. Yippie Kaye, what? Motherfucker. Saying it again now. Oh, wait, that's diard. All right. Anyway. So we've talked about the people behind the camera. Let's talk about the people in front of the camera. Justin, who you got? Let's do. First up, I have Jack Traven played by Keanu Reeves.

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Fuck me.

SPEAKER_12 30:39

Fuck me.

SPEAKER_06 30:40

Oh, that's good. Play it again.

SPEAKER_12 30:42

Fuck me.

SPEAKER_06 30:45

He's talking to you, Brian. Fuck me. Brian.

SPEAKER_05 30:50

I I may just do that.

SPEAKER_06 30:52

I mean, why not? It's Keanu Reeves. It is.

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Fuck me.

SPEAKER_06 30:59

Jack is a fearless LAPD SWAT officer who must think fast and stay calm under pressure as he tries to outsmart a madman and save innocent lives.

SPEAKER_04 31:11

I don't want to be that guy, but I'm gonna be that guy. Be the guy. Keanu Reeves is not a good actor. He's a terrible actor. You know, he's he seems to play the same character in every movie. He does. And in in most in many cases, the character fits the movie. Right. Like TOD Todd from Parenthood, Keanu Reeves. Okay, that worked. Uh Ted Theodore Preston, it worked. Yeah. Or Ted Theodore Logan in Don Ted's, it worked.

SPEAKER_03 31:42

Stoner surfer guy, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:44

Even I guess he could save point break, even though he's an undercover police, whatever. There's a lot of surfing and skydiving, so it kind of worked. Yeah. I guess on this one, because the di his dialogue was actually pretty lacking. And in fact, I was really damn near pulled in a different movie quote. I almost pulled in like from The Matrix, I knew how to do Kung Fu just to have a longer quote.

SPEAKER_12 32:06

Because really, there's just not that no, no.

SPEAKER_04 32:08

He I think the longest sentence he said was like four words. He said some things, but none of it was like exciting or interesting or funny. It was just yeah. I mean, fuck me works. Yeah. It does. What's interesting is Fuck me.

SPEAKER_05 32:21

Fuck me. What's interesting is nowadays, you know, we know the story of Keanu Reeves Reeves as as the good guy. Yeah. You know, he's just a solid human being. Absolutely. You know, uh, he gave most of his salary from the Matrix to the special effects team. Yeah. Um, just what a good dude. And he's done so much for cancer research, all that stuff. We we've heard it. Um but people loved him before they knew that. Not quite sure why.

SPEAKER_04 32:48

Right. I I don't know. I I think a lot of the rules, it just worked. Again, they were casting the Keanu Reeves character in rules that it that it fit. But there were some outliers that I'm like, oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 33:02

Well in this movie, I thought Keanu Reeves Jack Traven, his character, his job was his personality. Yeah. And that usually really annoys me. But there's something I can't put my finger on that made me really like him. And I normally don't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:22

Like that type of character. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

Like, there's like there's never been a movie that Keanu Reese is in that I I hated him in the movie, and I don't get it.

SPEAKER_06 33:31

Right. Right. Because he's not good at it. No, but he's there's some hidden enduring quality that draws you in.

SPEAKER_04 33:38

There, there is like it's like an unspoken thing. Right. That there is this bro dude energy that is palpable.

SPEAKER_12 33:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:46

And it you can't help but to kind of get hooked on it, right? You root for the guy. A little bit. You love the guy. Love you, man.

SPEAKER_06 33:53

You're my best friend, buddy. But you don't know why.

SPEAKER_04 33:55

Right. Yeah. Yeah. He's been in a lot of other movies. Maybe he has the Kavorka. I'm not gonna. I we we've talked about many already. And if you don't know of any other Counter Reeves movies, IMDB it. I'm not gonna waste any time here. He's done a lot of stuff. Matrix. What I do think is uh cool, despite the fact he's still an A-list action icon, he runs his own motorcycle company. Really? Yeah. He does cut makes custom motorcycles because why not? Did he Okay, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_06 34:28

When he came up with this idea, did he draw a picture in crayon and give it to his best friend? I hope he did. I hope so. That sounds like Keanu Reddit. It probably does, doesn't it? Yes. That's such a fire in the sky kind of idea. Look, man. Oh, I drew this with my crayons last night.

SPEAKER_03 34:49

Alright, who else we got? All right, next up we have Annie Porter played by Sandra Bullock.

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I love my car. I miss my car.

SPEAKER_06 34:59

She's she's a cutie patootie. She is a cutie patootie.

SPEAKER_05 35:02

She still is and always has been.

SPEAKER_06 35:04

Oh man, yeah. Yeah. Like she never aged. No. Like she's just better with age, even. Anyway, Annie is a quick-witted civilian who finds herself behind the wheel of a rigged bus rising to the occasion with courage and sharp instincts.

SPEAKER_04 35:19

I thought she was a fun character. She was a fun character. Wildcat. And I appreciate the fact that you know this was a person who was put into a situation well outside their wheelhouse. Yeah. They rose to the occasion. I think there were times that she seemed almost too comfortable, too quick with things. Yeah, I felt that too. But I also kind of like dismissive because maybe that's just how she processes nervousness. That could be. Maybe. I I thought she was kind of bitchy at the beginning.

SPEAKER_09 35:45

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 35:46

And and I think her character grew.

SPEAKER_05 35:47

I I thought that was a real arc here.

SPEAKER_03 35:50

Yeah, I agree. Yeah. When she first got on, she likes she didn't even want to talk to the guy behind her.

SPEAKER_04 35:54

Okay, in fairness, Alan Ruck's his the character who's right behind her, Cameron Fry from from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. So damn annoying. Yeah, oh yeah. And I and I could get why she wouldn't want to be near him, but but the whole, you know, she pulls her own gum out of her mouth and talks about, oh no, I sat in gum just so she can leave. It was a little bit of a bitch move. Yeah. It was a little bitchy move.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

You know, like just to be upfront and honest, say, hey, I don't want to talk to you. You know, like I get it. You're a tourist, like all that good stuff. I have my own things to do. Or no hablo inglés.

SPEAKER_06 36:30

You're in California. That would do it. Yeah. That would do it. Okay. No say.

SPEAKER_04 36:38

What else has she been in? A lot. Everything.

SPEAKER_05 36:41

Yeah, everything.

SPEAKER_04 36:41

Uh, we've mentioned a few already, but the other one's uh the blind side, which she won an Oscar for. Seen it. Miscongeniality and gravity. Yeah. Nazi. Have you seen Bird Box? Yes. Yeah, I saw that. I did see that. What were your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_05 36:56

I thought it was interesting. It was interesting, like the first half of it was interesting. Then to me, it just kind of drawn on. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 37:04

Yeah, I feel the same way. I liked it. Did you ever see while you were sleeping? Uh yes. Yes, I have. Which one? What is that? I have strong feelings about that one.

SPEAKER_05 37:14

You will love that. Why? What is it? What is it? Okay, isn't it the guy who goes into a coma? Yeah, so she's a friend or something.

SPEAKER_04 37:21

Then she she works like at a transit booth or something like that. Yeah. And there's a guy that she sees every day that she builds this kind of unrequited, unspoken crush for. Okay. And he gets injured, like he falls off the platform and hits his head, and she's you know, calls anyway, he gets rushed off. And somehow the assumption is made that she is his girlfriend and she doesn't correct anybody. Okay. She's never actually spoke to this guy. All right. And then he wakes up and has amnesia, right? And and but in the process of this, she actually develops feelings for his brother. Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Messy. But honestly, I think that is the essence of a Sandra Bullock movie. Being a fumbling, messy mess. Yes. That's the proposal. So charming at the same time. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. There's magic there. And darn cute. There's practical magic there. So I've heard. Uh, but yeah, she's really become a pretty bankable star, and you know shows up not as much as she used to, but when she does, man, she reminds you. She's got it. Yep. She does it. She does.

SPEAKER_05 38:37

She she, like Keanu Reeves, has that extra ingredient that endears you to her character. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, she's a better actress, though. I mean, because like in the proposal, she was a real bitch. Yeah. But you liked her. Yeah. Yeah. Weird.

SPEAKER_03 38:51

She's pretty sexy in that one, too. Oh. Comes out of the shower. Who else we got? Yeah. Next up is Howard Payne, played by Dennis Hopper.

SPEAKER_02 39:03

It's getting on to 11 a.m., Jazz. Likely someone. And I think it's gonna be a very pretty day.

SPEAKER_06 39:12

Howard is a disgruntled former bomb squad officer turned terrorist. Driven by revenge and a twisted sense of justice.

SPEAKER_04 39:21

There's a phrase that is spoken multiple times throughout this movie that I think is the perfect descriptor for this character. What's that? Crazy, not stupid.

SPEAKER_06 39:32

Yeah. There's another thing he said where the craziest poor people are crazy. I'm eccentric. I I thought that was a pretty fun quote. Yeah. Poor people are crazy.

SPEAKER_04 39:50

Yeah, he was nuts.

SPEAKER_05 39:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:52

He did a good job of it, too. I I think that's just the energy that's natural to Dennis Hopper. Ah, he was wacko and he was naturally unhinged. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

SPEAKER_05 40:01

I know they tried to make him to be this maniacal genius.

SPEAKER_06 40:05

But he had his faults too.

SPEAKER_05 40:07

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:09

I liked that character. How creepy was that hand, though?

SPEAKER_04 40:14

Ooh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:16

That was a good prosthetic for sure.

SPEAKER_04 40:17

Yeah, it was a nice little mangled hand. Yeah. Bomb squad guy. Yep. It's kind of like a gym teacher. Or I'm sorry. It's kind of like a shop teacher.

SPEAKER_05 40:26

Yeah. If he's got all his fingers, he didn't do his job right. Right, right. A shop teacher with all ten fingers is not a good shop teacher.

SPEAKER_06 40:32

No. In middle school, I had a shop teacher's name was Mr. Hedrick. And so, like, you know, he had the dustpan, like with the brush. Yeah. First of all, he was missing a couple of tips of his fingers and stuff. But he would always comb his hair forward. He had a like the back of his hair was longer than the front. He was bald and he would comb it with the brush for the dustpan.

SPEAKER_03 40:53

And at the end of the class, he would be combing it and he'd say, You don't do, we don't go.

SPEAKER_06 40:59

Simple as that. All he wanted to do was clean up. But he would stand there and brush his head with this dustpan brush. And it was the creepiest thing ever. It is creepy. Missing fingers. Yeah. Weirdo guy. He's probably dead now, though. Yeah. It's fine.

SPEAKER_04 41:16

Rest in peace, Mr. Hoogers. Also dead is Dennis Hopper. He passed away in 2010. I mostly remember Dennis Hopper from Hoosier's. Yeah. The alcoholic. Who wanders onto the court? Yo, he's done so many movies prior to his passing. And so many. I look thumbing through his IMDB page. I'm shocked by the number of movies I've never heard of. Yeah. But also some of the some huge movies, like so much we talked about earlier, Apocalypse Now, Blue Velvet, Easy Rider. Easy Rider, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, he he's definitely, you know, establish his legacy of one of cinema's most unpredictable actors. Because he's just such a cornucopia. There's a handful of them who can play the unhinged genius and do it like they're themselves. But especially in later in his career, um when we're or during this phase in his career anyway, it seemed like he had a specialty in playing characters you would not want to sit next to on a bus. How punny of you to say that.

SPEAKER_05 42:25

Yes, I totally agree.

SPEAKER_04 42:27

Anyway, who else we got?

SPEAKER_03 42:29

Next up, I have Harry Temple played by Jeff Daniels.

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I'm gonna go home. Have some sex. Harry's Jack's loyal partner, whose experience and level-headedness make him a key part of the after operation.

SPEAKER_03 42:48

I just have a hard time seeing Jeff Daniels in anything other than Dumb and Dumber. Like the diarrhea scene. Yeah. Like that's all I can picture with.

SPEAKER_04 42:57

What I love about Jeff Daniels, similar to Dennis Hopper, but a little bit more bankable. His filmography runs the gamut from the absolutely stupid to the absolutely intelligent psychological, over you know, it's it's all over the place, but it's all actually really dang good. It is. He's a pretty good actor. I remember him from Gettysburg. Yeah. Playing the the the what is it, Colonel of the Maine Division? Oh, uh General Chamberlain General Chamberlain. Yeah, of the 20th Main. He was a colonel at the yeah, 22nd, I think. 22nd, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, the battle of the Little Round Tower. Yeah, but he has they do the pivot. Uh huh. And they and they charge with bayonets when they run out of it. Bayonet charge, yeah. Yeah, he was great in that movie. Great. Again, another epic. I will allow the term on that one. Because that movie actually had an intermission. It we know we're long.

SPEAKER_05 43:57

Stretch your legs. You're gonna

SPEAKER_06 44:00

Get blood clots. Let's go now. Did you find it funny that his name was Harry in this movie? But another 1994 movie was also Harry.

SPEAKER_05 44:12

I debated with my wife if if he he was Harry or if he was Lloyd.

SPEAKER_04 44:16

Like no, Lloyd Christmas was uh was Jim Carrey.

SPEAKER_03 44:20

Okay. Yeah. So which came first?

SPEAKER_06 44:23

Speed or Dumb and Dumber. They were both 94. Yeah. I don't know. He was a busy dude in 94. He was he was getting some stuff done.

SPEAKER_04 44:34

Somewhere in there. That's a big year for him. He might have been working two jobs at the same time. You know, he he's had success in both drama and comedy. And now he actually runs his own theater company in Michigan. No, goodness. Yeah. Good for him. He seems like a good dude. He seems like a guy I'd want has my as my neighbor. And I also appreciate that he's had success both on the big screen and the small screen. In fact, he won an Emmy for the newsroom. He was good in that. That was a good show. Hey, backing up real quick.

SPEAKER_05 45:05

Justin, you mentioned having two jobs. Keanu Reeves negotiated a smaller salary for this movie because he was also doing uh, I think, theater at the same time. So he said, Hey, can I do this theater? I'm like, no, you're doing this movie. He's like, what if I took less money? He said, okay. Wow.

SPEAKER_06 45:26

He's just an all-around good guy.

SPEAKER_05 45:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:30

Alright, well let's move on. Who else we got? Next and last is Captain McMahon, played by Joe Morton.

SPEAKER_05 45:39

I just might be a nice guy and let you have the rest of the day off.

SPEAKER_03 45:42

That'd be great.

SPEAKER_05 45:43

Would be nice. I like this guy. I've seen him in a couple other things and I've always he's never been the focal. But uh, I've always liked his characters.

SPEAKER_06 45:51

Yeah. Well, in this movie, McMahon is the commanding officer overseeing the crisis, coordinating efforts to stop pain and save the passengers.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

And he's also the one that says, don't get dead. Right.

SPEAKER_04 46:05

You know what what I appreciate is that in so many police-oriented movies, the commander is presented either as an incompetent or an adversarial character. This guy was neither. No, he was neither. He was on top of his shit, he supported his dudes. He had humor, but he had balls. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 46:26

100%.

SPEAKER_04 46:27

I I don't I can honestly cannot think of another movie where the commanding officer was this good. That's a good point.

SPEAKER_11 46:39

Yeah, you bring up a good point. I can't believe it.

SPEAKER_04 46:41

The closest one I could think of is the other guys with Mark Wahlberg and Will Farrell, where Oh my god, now my mind's gone blank. The guy that from um um Mr. Mom. Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton is their their commanding officer, and he's supportive, sort of, disciplinarian sort of TLC lyric quoter, absolutely. But you know, at least he you know, competent. Uh but yeah, most movies they're always just so over the top, screaming in their face. This was not the case, and I appreciate it. It was a different take.

SPEAKER_05 47:18

In fact Captain was almost like the person who Jack wanted to become. Yeah. He wanted to emulate his uh his captain. Yeah, I liked him. I thought he did a good job. Yeah, he was great.

SPEAKER_04 47:31

But I'd seen him somewhere else. You have. In fact, a movie I think that was mentioned earlier. Terminator 2! That's it! T2. Yeah. He uh he's the guy who accidentally builds the apocalypse.

SPEAKER_05 47:44

He's the one who gives himself up. You know, he has the shortness of breath and then he blows up the room.

SPEAKER_11 47:51

Yeah. Awful that he did that. To save humanity.

SPEAKER_04 47:58

But he was also by mistake. He was also in um the TV show Scandal, uh, the movie Ali, and American Gangster. So yeah. Not too shabby. Done a lot of things. Well, guys, now that we've talked about all these awesome people in this movie, what do you say we take a moment and talk about our s I don't even know how to quantify this. Let's talk about beer number two. Alright, beer number two. So this beer that we are now drinking is my pick for the evening. Comes from Aylesmith Brewing Company. It's their Speedway Stout. Oh, I like that. It fits the theme. It does. It's an Imperial Stout with coffee. It's a one-pint can with an ABV of 12%. Thanks. Yeah. Had I known we'd have been starting things off with Irish car bombs, I might not have picked this one. But I did. You know? And so we are now experiencing the bold and legendary taste of Speedway Stout. How in a can? Oh, now in a can. It is. I got it. Old man eyes. I cannot read. Now in a can, this modern classic is infused with richly roasted local coffee and boasts. Intense flavors of chocolate, roasted malt, dark fruits, toffee, and caramel. What is a dark fruit? I don't know, but I'm drinking like a plum. I think it's I think it's a strawberry with intrusive thoughts. Yeah, I was thinking, you know, prune?

SPEAKER_05 49:46

Raising designs, maybe plum. I have to say, I have three, four, or five real compliments about the spear and only one negative.

SPEAKER_04 49:56

Yeah. The negative is it's a little hot. It is. And we so we we've ventured out of our normal box of drinking it straight from the can. And we've poured this in glasses, not stifters, but just just your standard lager glass. And um I the first few sips I had, I fully agree, burned that hot alcohol, but the more it's kind of breathed and warmed up, is getting darn delightful. I love the coffee and chocolate notes in this. Yeah, they come through real strong. And that those those suicidal fruits, not bad either. You know, I'm I'm a sucker for a dark beer. And this thing's dark as night, and I like it. I just wish it wasn't so heavy with the alcohol. It is a little, even still, slightly hot, and definitely there's some syrupiness to it.

SPEAKER_03 50:51

Why does everybody think that everyone wants an Imperial? Maybe that's why the Kraft beer boom is like dying. I it's probably part of it.

SPEAKER_06 50:58

Because nobody wants to drink 12% beers. Well, because you don't have to buy a bunch of it. You know, two of them gets the job done.

SPEAKER_11 51:05

Yeah, I could just I I need a 12-pack of Bud Light, but you know, only two of these.

SPEAKER_04 51:12

I could just sip one through the night and be good, but I don't sip my beer.

SPEAKER_03 51:16

I don't sip my beers either. And I'm only sipping this one.

SPEAKER_06 51:19

I'm having a real hard time with it. Well, Ail Smith Brewing Company, I like what you created. Your speed waste out. I'm a fan. But make it a six percent. Uh, let's compromise. How about nine? I would take the six. I'm not going nine. That's still imperial. Out. Give me something a little easier drinking, Justin. Uh-huh. I ain't scared. Ain't scared? I ain't scared. You can have. I'll pour mine into your glass. But I'm not walking or driving home. Facts. I just have to stumble up the stairs. I'm gonna I'm gonna slide this one over to you.

SPEAKER_05 51:58

Alright, I'll drink it. There you go. Because I'm sure I'm just gonna guess that you bring some dank hoppy West Coast IPA that's going to desiccate my tongue.

SPEAKER_04 52:12

It's not dank. Yeah? No, it's not dank. Dink, dunk, dunk.

SPEAKER_17 52:16

Not dank.

SPEAKER_04 52:17

I don't know what you brought, so I'm just I'm just guessing it's a West Coast. But it's a little wild and it's a little strange. When you live your home, when you make your home out on the rain. When you drink rap PAs on the West Coast.

SPEAKER_05 52:32

I I like I like the Smith uh speedway stuff.

SPEAKER_04 52:35

I am enjoying it. I'm enjoying it more the farther I get into the glass, though. Yeah. Maybe because we're a little uh a little buzzed. That could be. Yeah, it might be. Well, what do you guys say we get into the nitty-gritty of speed? Yeah, let's speed into it. We've been taking our dear sweet time up to this point, so maybe we should give it a little pedal to the metal. Um, we start things off with uh LAPD SWAT bomb squad officers Jack Traven and Harry Temple racing to the scene to respond to a bomb threat in a high-rise elevator where 13 people are trapped. And man, they flew onto the scene. They sure did.

SPEAKER_05 53:19

Right after the opening credits, you see a road with a hill, and all of a sudden you see a car like dukes a hazarding over the top of this hill.

SPEAKER_04 53:29

Let me just fly my car to air through the air, and then they they land and come to a stop and they get out like nothing happened.

SPEAKER_05 53:36

Just a normal day. So now the very, very beginning before that, the opening credits, you know, it was like going down the elevator side of the elevator shaft. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 53:47

That seemed to take forever. It did. And did you also notice the cheesy graphics on the title sequence? Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of a name. It was a thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:58

Oh, so I felt like that that was a low point. Now, again, I I I dismissed it fairly easily because it's just who cares? It's opening title sequence. But yeah, the elevator shaft going down, which took forever, and all the names fading in, fading out, as the girders pass by. It was clearly all CG.

SPEAKER_11 54:19

It did not match the rest of the movie.

SPEAKER_04 54:21

It didn't match the rest of the movie. And you know, they they tried their best. Like there was a few moments where it could feel like it looked like the camera jitter or jerked, so they're trying to make it seem natural, but it you could tell. Yeah, it did not look whatever. And even the font choice. Oh, the font was terrible. It was it was like almost like this Western style font and the colors, which don't match at all with what the movie poster ended up being like. They knew after it's like that sucked, but whatever. We put our money into it, we're moving on.

SPEAKER_05 54:47

Okay, so the the opening credits, and then you have this car like ramping down the road.

SPEAKER_11 54:53

My initial thought was, oh geez.

SPEAKER_04 54:55

Yeah, I was with you. I was with you. I'm like, oh no. Yeah, not I uh my expectations were so low at that point. Um but boy did that change. It did. Because you know, the bomber um has has demanded ransom or the elevator's gonna drop. Yeah. And we have SWAT teams rushing into action. We have Jack and and and Harry inspecting the bomb and going in and doing this and doing that. And eventually, though, they are able to, you know, get the people off the elevator. Which now there was one that was very memorable.

SPEAKER_05 55:35

I wrote this down because I knew that you were gonna bring this up. I rewound it and watched it a couple times. It was the panty shot. It was the panty shot, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:44

I I as soon as I see that, I'm like, Brian's gonna like that. Oh my god, I love 90s.

SPEAKER_06 55:48

Now there was like during this whole sequence, you got uh Jack, right? Uh-huh. And he's chewing gum the entire time.

SPEAKER_03 56:00

Yeah. And it made me wonder, like, does Do you think that him chewing the gum made him look confident or nervous? I think it made him look aloof.

SPEAKER_06 56:18

I thought it made him look like somebody with ADHD. He's like, I'm just chill and I'm gonna chew my gum, or I'm like, I'm gonna chew my gum because I'm fucking freaking out right now.

SPEAKER_04 56:27

You know? Yeah, I I thought it was a bit of an outlet for energy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But the the whole rescue of the people off the elevator, it all hinges on the fact that there was a crane of some sort attached at the roof of the building.

SPEAKER_05 56:42

To keep the elevator up the room.

SPEAKER_04 56:43

That they were able then to basically run this cable from this crane that was part of the roof of the building down the elevator shaft and attach it to the elevator to hold the elevator so that if the bomb blew, it would catch the elevator and keep it from falling down and causing everyone's death. Sure. And it worked. I don't know how. Because the cables that were on the elevator look like they were like a good inch thick. That cable that was hooked onto that hook that was on that crane that was mounted to the roof looked like maybe it was like a quarter inch thick. Uh-huh. No way that could have supported. Well, and you know, and it and it didn't support the whole elevator. Yeah. Right. It actually it snapped the bolts on the crane part and it starts swooping down. And of course, you had all this drama that they were getting people off the elevator as the crane part was busting through different things and breaking the fan of the exhaust ports and all this other crap. And you know, dropping, dropping, dropping. But they get everyone off just in time.

SPEAKER_05 57:48

Okay, so they get everybody off except one lady. Yeah. Who's stuck in the back of the elevator and she's scared. Scared to come. Remember that because that same characteristic in a character shows up again. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 58:02

Alright. Now, one other thing. Whenever it was like right before they hooked up the crane and he blew the bricks.

SPEAKER_06 58:11

Right? The bomber blew the bricks. Did you notice that right before he did it? He said, Don't fuck with daddy.

SPEAKER_04 58:20

Why why was this movie rated R? Was it the language? Probably. In a panic shot. Or was it the the violence? Probably both. In a panic shot.

SPEAKER_06 58:30

Just one.

SPEAKER_04 58:32

That did it. That put it over the top.

unknown 58:35

Maybe.

SPEAKER_04 58:36

So anyway, everyone in the elevator gets saved. Yep. And you know, now Jack and Harry are are you know it it dawns on Jack that, you know, I bet the bomber is still here.

SPEAKER_16 58:52

He's here. He could have blown that thing from Bacoima.

SPEAKER_14 58:56

No. He knew we were up to something. He's close by.

SPEAKER_08 59:01

He's not gonna corner himself in a building we evacuated anyway. Come on. He'd want to be here, but he'd want to stay mobile, right?

SPEAKER_14 59:21

The elevators. Passenger cars were stopped. They checked him out. What about the freight elevators?

SPEAKER_04 59:29

Oh yeah, there's a freight elevator, which turns out exactly where he's at, and that's where they find him. And they go to the freight elevator and they come down sneak trying to sneak in from the top, but but you know, the bomber's just too smart, and he starts firing shotgun blasts. Through the through the ceiling and the elevator. Through the roof of the elevator, which is a steel roof. Yeah, but it's a steel roof on that elevator, and he's blowing pretty big damn holes through it. And I'm thinking, I don't know if that's what would happen. Well, he's pretty close. Maybe. That's a that's a pretty close shot. And he fired a ton of shots. Yeah, and didn't hit anybody. Didn't hit anyone. But but uh Harry ends up falling in through the elevator, and it provides an opportunity for for the bomber to take Harry hostage. See how he picked him up by his nose. Picked him up by his nose, grabbed him by his nostrils and pulled him up.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:17

My favorite thing about that is after that, he had some blood coming from his nose. Oh, so they put a little thing in there.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:25

All right. So the bomber now has Harry hostage, and um, you know, Jack tracks him down, they've got a bit of a standoff going. And uh it turns out, you know, the bomber's got a vest full of dynamite and a dead man switch, which results in a standoff.

SPEAKER_17 1:00:44

There will come a time, boy, when you'll wish you never met me. Mister, I'm already there.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:50

See, I'm in charge here. I drop this stick, huh? And they pick your friend up with a sponge. Are you ready to die, friend? Fuck you. Oh, in 200 years, we've come for my regret, but I have one life to give for my country to f you. Go ahead and drop the stick.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:08

It's a great line.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:10

Oh, we got all the balls in the world right here, man. Get it up, you got nowhere to go. Shoot the hostage. Say goodbye, Harry.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:25

So Jack shoots Harry in the leg. Shoot the hostage. Yeah. Pop quiz, hot shot. Jack shoots Harry in the leg, which for some reason causes the bomber to or Payne, let's just say it. His his name's Payne. Yeah. Um, to to to to let Harry go. Yeah. Why? He can't carry him with him. Well, he only had to get out of door. He's now a mobile. The hostage is a mobile. Is that the okay? Well, anyway, uh, so he drops Harry and then Payne runs off into the parking garage and a bomb goes off. And everyone assumes that that Payne's now dead.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:00

Yeah. They thought it was the bomb that he had strapped to his chest that went off.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:04

Wrong. Yeah. Um so Jack and Harry are now celebrated as heroes and they get medals. Uh, but yeah, the big twist, Payne is actually alive and watches all the the coverage on TV.

unknown 1:02:18

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:19

Yeah, so it was a big I that that's this is a criticism I have of the movie, though it's not that big of one. They set it up like he's dead, but man, they they reveal the fact he's not super fast. They do. It's not a secret they keep for very long. No. The movie is named Speed. That's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:39

Fair enough. Let's move it along.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:42

So, um I don't know when this is. It's not that long after, because we when we see Jack and Harry getting their medals, Harry still limp, is walking with a cane from being shot in the leg. Right. And it seems like there's still a bit of animosity about that whole thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:01

And my favorite thing is after the awards ceremony, they all go back to a bar.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:05

Right. Uh, and they have a pretty big night of drinking. Next morning, though, um, as Jack's going about his business, he's nearby when a bus just happens to explode. Yep. And then a payphone starts to ring. And he has uh he goes and I don't know why, but he feels a compulsion to answer. To answer the payphone.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:39

What do you think, Jack? You think if you pick up all the bus driver's teeth, they'll give you another medal?

unknown 1:03:46

Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:47

You think I wouldn't have been prepared? Two years I spent setting up that elevator job. Two years I invested myself in it. You couldn't understand the kind of commitment that I have. You're ain't a man's life's work, and you think you can walk away. You got blinders on to the world, but I got your attention now, didn't I, Jack? Why didn't you just come after me? No, this is about me. This is about my money. This is about money due to me, which I will collect. 3.7 million dollars. Money due to specific number, yeah, right. You gotta think ahead. When I find you. Top quiz, hotshot. There's a bomb on a bus. Once the bus goes 50 miles an hour, the bomb is armed. If it drops below 50, it blows up.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:38

And now we have the stakes for the rest of the movie. Now we do.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:42

Yeah, he set the scene.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:44

There's a few other rules. You know, no pastures can be offloaded and so on and so forth. And then he also needs to get his money by by noon. Uh or the eleven. Or I'm sorry, yeah, by eleven. Or the bus is gonna go boom. So you brought up a good point. Why three point seven million? I don't know. It's such a specific number. Why not just round up four million? Four million? Or five. Ten. You know? A hundred dollars. Shoot for the moon million dollars. I mean, shoot for the moon. Also, this whole thing where he says, like, I spent two years planning out that elevator job. How quickly then did he put together this bus job? Right. Within a day? Yeah, so so it seems like maybe I think it's been a week or two. It's it's probably been a couple weeks, but but even still, if you can put this together in two weeks, what did you why did it take you two years to put together the elevator job? What were you doing there, Howard? Well, it was my first job. Um, so it gives Jack enough information to know what bus number it is and where the bus can be found. So Jack jumps into his car and he's racing to catch the bus. And so he tries to catch up. The bus and runs to go hang on the door to say, Hey, let me in, don't step with the bus. There's a bomb on the bus. But the bus driver's like, whatever, and just keeps on going. Uh so he ends up with the help of uh or the unwilling help of a Jaguar drive owner. Uh-huh. Uh, you know, he's able then to to basically intercept the bus again. Who was that? His name was Glenn Plummer. Glenn Plummer. Was he he was in ER?

SPEAKER_06 1:06:23

He was in Showgirls and South Central.

SPEAKER_17 1:06:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:28

I thought maybe he was the guy from Dave Matthews band. Oh, the violin player? Yeah. Yeah, that's how I thought he was.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:35

I also uh I don't know if you noticed his license plate, Toon Man. Toon Man. Yeah, he was a music dude. Yeah, I feel like they should have it was a very specific license plate for such a small role. So maybe it was the Ants Marching guy. That's what I like. I saw Toon Man and I was like, well, maybe that then maybe.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:52

Who knows? I heard that guy passed away. Didn't he? Didn't he? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:56

Buster rest of soul. If I had beer left, I'd pour some out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:00

You could pour mine out.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:05

I guess I'm not winning best beer of the night. Anyway, so he's able to finally intercept the bus and flag down the bus driver and you know, writing down, he gets uh the Jaguar, to Mr. Toon Man, to write down bomb on bus on a piece of paper, and which he tries to display the bus driver, and then it flies through the air, sticks to the window, and the bus driver starts to panic and starts to slow down, but then you know Jack tells him, Don't slow down, don't slow down. Somehow they're able to communicate clear enough that that he knows what to do.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:37

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:38

And then uh I love how Jack decides I have to get on this bus. And so the first thing he does is looks at Mr. Toon Man and says, like, are you insured?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:49

I know, that was hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:51

And then opens the door to the car, slams on the brakes, lets the bus rip the door off the car, and then speeds up and then jumps from the car into the bus.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:03

Do you think that was necessary considering it was a convertible?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:07

Probably not. I do so so if you have the door open, the wind is gonna shut the door. Well, and you also need to open the door. Well, and then also in fairness, even if you did manage to somehow keep the door open, it m minimizes or it it creates an added buffer. You know, so you now you have two and a half to three feet. Well, yeah, but you're in a convertible, you don't need to have the door open. I mean, would you trust yourself to jump from off the door of a car into a bus going at 50 miles an hour? I wouldn't trust myself with the door off.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:39

Like fucking around.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:41

Yeah, I mean, there's there's there's things here. I I just think it went to show some of the critical thinking skills from Jack.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:48

Well, sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:49

You know, but you're in a convertible.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:52

Yeah you could have just got close enough and stepped off.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:57

I don't know. Maybe not. Anyway. But there's a lot of movie physics in this movie. Uh huh. Yeah. Now, what I do love though, is we talked about a little bit already that Jan Debont was a big fan of practical effects. How many buses do you think they used in this movie? Oh, that's a great question.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:17

I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say eleven.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:22

Damn!

SPEAKER_04 1:09:23

What? Did you did you look it up? I did not. I just guessed. You guessed exactly right. Really? I was gonna say seven at first, but I'm like, nah, probably. Damn it. I didn't even get to tell you the over or under. From what I read, eleven different new look buses were used for filming. Some were reinforced, some were rigged with explosives, some were just sacrificed for the cause. Um but but yeah, to get that practical effect look and feel, a lot of the action actually was used using moving buses. And so a lot of the stuff like in the bus, it's not green screen. That's them, that's the action inside the bus shot. Inside the bus. Inside the bus as it's moving. That's cool. Yeah, that's cool. I mean, it's it's it's stuff that's not often done now. No, but but it made it look very realistic. It did. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, so no green screen, it was just it was hold on in hope. Yeah. Right. But yeah, once Jack is on the bus, because he does make the jump from the jaguar to the bus. And once he does, the jaguar crashes into the big barrels of water that are on the you know, it you know, off ramps uh and comes to a stop. But but Jack is now on the bus, but but the chaos continues once he's on board. Yeah, it's it's just underway. Um, because for some reason, uh one of the passengers, upon learning there's a bomb in the bus, thinks it's a good time to pull a gun. Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:55

Ooh, I think it was because it was a cop.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:57

Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_15 1:10:59

I don't know you, man. I'm not here for you. Let's not do this. Stop the vibe! He can't. Stop! Stop the bomb! Stop it!

SPEAKER_16 1:11:08

Listen, I'm putting my gun away, okay? Okay. Now listen. I don't care about your crime. Whatever you did, I'm sure that you're sorry.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:28

Totally.

SPEAKER_16 1:11:29

So it's cool now.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:31

It's cool. It's cool now that you did the crime. Don't worry about that lady you raped.

SPEAKER_16 1:11:40

See? We're just two cool guys just hanging.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:50

Oh, and he shoots the bus driver by the back. Yeah, shoots the the the worst person you could possibly shoot in this moment. Just a couple of bros hanging out. With guns. I mean, he tried really well to defuse the situation. But the guy was scared. He had a gun. Yep. But anyway, yeah, the bus driver gets shot, and Annie, uh played by Asandra Bullock, has to jump into the driver's seat to take over driving. Yep. Hey, real quick. Annie by Sandra Bullock. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:20

She was not the first choice. No, who was? She was the third choice. Okay. First choice was Demi Moore. Second choice was Meg Ryan.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:29

I think they hit the jackpot. Absolutely. But fun fact about Sandra Bullock. Yeah. She didn't have a driver's license. In real life? In real life, she she allegedly did not have a driver's license when filming started. Oh, that's awesome. And so she learned to handle the bus while filming in traffic with explosions. That's awesome. Wow. But but honestly, it added some methodness to her performance because you know that panic but determined energy really. Yeah, yeah, that came through. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:11

That's cool. Yeah. Uh wasn't it something she said, like her license was revoked?

SPEAKER_10 1:13:18

So you're a cop, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:13:19

That's right.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:21

Well, I should probably tell you that I'm taking the bus because I have my driver's license revoked.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:26

What for?

SPEAKER_10 1:13:27

Speeding.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:29

Ah, yay.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:32

Unpaid parking tickets would not have been as good. Right. No. Uh-uh. Speeding. Speeding. Anyway, so Jack coordinates with Harry while while trying to keep everyone calm and keep the bus moving. And along the way, man, there's just chaos on the streets as the bus is sideswiping cars, taking out barrels. And there's one particular moment where they really lead us to believe that that bus careened into a baby carriage. Yes. And let us held that thought for way too long before revealing it was just full of cans.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:15

Yeah, it was a homeless lady and it was full of cans, but they made you think it was a baby carriage with a fuck, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:14:21

Come on, Yon Debunt. At this point, my wife did say, fuck the person who wrote that scene.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:32

Yeah, that was that was an intense moment. It was. This movie was full of those little intense moments.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:40

It really was. Yeah. They did a good job of it. That was one I had I took issue with because I'm like, come on. Oh man. Yeah. Um, so they make their way, though, finally, eventually, onto an open freeway where police cars are able to pull up along the bus with a flat bed. And so Jack's able to communicate with his captain, and they're able to, you know, start doing some more coordination. They got a police helicopter flying out ahead. They got all this stuff going on. You know what else they have? News helicopters. They have news helicopters, which is allowing Payne to see what's going on. Keep tabs on him the whole time. No one's allowed to leave the bus.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:25

They don't know because it's all freaking on TV.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:28

But but, you know, the Payne does make contact with Jack, and Jack is able to negotiate to at least get the bus driver off the bus because he got shot and he needs medical attention. It'd be a good, good faith gesture. Because if you're wanting this $3.7 million, you've got to show a little good faith. Of course. Right. And so so we so they do that. They pull the flatbed up, they're able to pass the bus driver or over to the flatbed.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:54

My favorite part is like, how you feeling? And the bus driver says, like I've been shot. So there were moments of humor throughout the whole movie. Definitely.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:05

Now we touched on a little bit earlier, but the the the passenger who was initially sitting behind Annie, uh, who was played by Alan Ruck. Uh the tourist. The tourist who is super obnoxious. That guy actually I thought had some really good lines of time. And there's one coming up that I thought was going on. There was one point where uh one of the other passengers is kind of freaking out, and I just loved this.

SPEAKER_15 1:16:30

It's okay. If you need two, you go right ahead and vomit.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:37

Anyrote, uh so so they they managed to pass the bus driver over. But but there's another passenger, Helen. Uh she panics and sees the opportunity to escape. With the bus driver who with the bus driver, when the bus driver gets off. And as she's trying to make the the jump, and and on in fairness, also there are police officers still in the flatbed saying, jump on over, jump on over, even though they should have known already, don't only the driver. But but uh they were still doing it, but Helen's before Helen can make the jump, Payne sets off a bomb, which is right underneath the door, which sends Helen dropping through the floor of the bus and then getting ran over by all the back tires of the bus. Thump thump. Now Helen is played by an actress who Justin and I know from Donnie Darko. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:28

All right. Way to go farmer.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:30

Mrs. Farmer. Kitty Farmer. All right. Kitty Farmer. Kitty Farmer. Super mega bitch.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:37

Yeah. So there was a little bit of sweet justice when she got ran over by the guy.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:41

I'm kind of glad that she got squished by the bus. A little bit.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:44

Didn't mind it one bit.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:46

Even though Donnie Darko was way later. It was. But it's still nice to see this premature come up in so she was typecast. Yeah, a little bit. Honestly, everything's that face. Everything I have seen this actress in, she has the same tightly wound bitch energy. Who does? She plays it well. Yeah. And in this case, yeah, it it it she paid for it by multiple sets of backwards. Hey, she's a one-note actor, and that's her note. It she does it well. And this time she got ran over for it. Um now the helicopter, which is up in the air and scouting the road, suddenly realizes and and how they didn't pick up on this sooner is beyond me, that there is a 50-foot gap in the highway. Oh no. Three miles ahead. Oh no.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:37

Okay. So here's the thing. When the helicopters were showing the the freeway, you know, it's like, oh, you can go right or you can go left. Right was to the gap. To the left, there was like a whole another part of the freeway. Uh-huh. I don't know if you noticed it or not, but they could have just went left and avoided the entire jump altogether. Yeah. It was not as exciting for movie, but whoever cut that scene, they really should have tried to cut off that whole left side. Because it was like could avoid all that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:11

Sure. Well, maybe that part of the interstate was not finished. And it maybe maybe it dropped off later and just was nothing.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:20

And this whole freeway they've been they've been routed onto, they say from the beginning it's not in use. Right. Apparently because it's still under construction. Yep. And there's confusion because, you know, Captain Mac says that, oh, well, the line on the map is the line is there. It's done. Well, that's not doesn't match with the reality. Maybe they're behind schedule. Yeah. Now, again, they've had a helicopter in the air. I feel like they would have scouted this out a little quicker, but they didn't. Um the the ultimate issue is that, yeah, there's this 50. All in fact, I'm just gonna play it because there's some information that comes out that that Jack has that doesn't match up with what we were about to hear.

SPEAKER_16 1:20:00

There's a gap in the freeway.

SPEAKER_15 1:20:05

How big is a gap? 50 feet. A couple of miles ahead.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:20

What if I shift in the neutral and just keep the engine coming? Jack.

SPEAKER_15 1:20:30

Floor. What? Floor it! It's an interchange. There might be an incline. Floor it! Fine.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:37

Now, the information that was conveyed to Jack never said it was an interchange. It said it was a 50 gap in the 50-foot gap in the freeway. He's made an assumption that's an interchange. Also, where it ends up being, I don't even know if I would call it the interchange. It feels like an overpass.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:54

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:56

Yeah. But there's a a a 50-foot gap that somehow he knows is there, that somehow he knows there will be an incline. And he says, floor it. Well, that's all you can hope for. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:09

I didn't know there's an incline, but what else are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:12

Hey, we can try and jump this thing, or we're freaking dead anyway. Well, so and even that, if I heard there's a fifty-foot gap, I wouldn't assume that's a fifty-foot gap in the air. I would think there's a fifty-foot gap on the ground, maybe that that they just haven't paved yet, or maybe there's a you know I don't even know what would be worse.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:33

But Well, the whole interstate was elevated. You know, they were already on an elevated interstate. So 50 foot gap, it's like, well, this is an elevated interstate. This is an elevated road, so I think he probably already knew that it wasn't on the ground.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:48

Well, maybe. But but regardless, he's got a plan. But assuming there's also movie. There is a movie. But here's the fun part about movie. Yeah. As we've already talked about multiple times, this movie was all in on the practical effects. Including jumping goddamn buses. Awesome. So there goes bus number uh seven. So the script originally had called for a much smaller gap. It turns out that the real gap that they had was way bigger than what they planned for. Uh and so Yon Debont, being all in full speed ahead, said, fuck it, send it. Nice. So they launched I love this guy already. So they launched a real bus across the gap. That's great. Now they did build it up. There's a hidden ramp leading up to it. There is. But that shot of a bus flying through the air was a real bus flying through the air. That's amazing. I love that. Was there anybody on board? God, I hope not. Maybe a stunt driver. Could have been a stunt driver, honestly. They uh they probably could have remote controlled that. You think in '94? Oh, yeah. I mean, you could it's just been simple servos.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:18

That's fucking crazy. That's awesome that they used a real bus to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:21

They ramped a 50, I don't know if it's a 50-50 foot necessarily, but they ramped a fucking gap with a bus.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:30

That's evil can evil kind of shit right there. Yes, that's good stuff. Insane. It is.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:35

Especially if there was a driver on there. Like, I mean, do you like he could die? Because I'll be honest, here's the thing. When I watched this movie and I saw them, like, oh, come on now. That's fake. And and I started thinking about like the whole rules of physics, like, there's no way. And then I as soon as I started to actually do a little research and saw they did this, I'm like, oh my god, that is insane. I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:01

So the big criticism the big criticism from when I saw this movie the first time and all the people who saw the movie when it came out in the theater was how does a road end create a ramp? And I think you've got some suspension of belief there. Yeah, well, you have to. You have to have it because you know, physics say no, that's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:24

Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:25

Uh but knowing that they actually did it, they hit a ramp. You can see that thing ramping up.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:30

Oh, it comes up. It does. It's it's obvious. But the fact that even just the other day, that little gif you sent us. Uh-huh. Yeah. It's it's lifting up before it comes off the edge of the freeway. Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:44

But I think that is all forgiven because everything else looks so real. Because it is real. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:50

Holy cow.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:51

Everybody who's seen this movie knows exactly what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:54

They do. And and honestly, what what what and this most recent viewing, this was not the most unbelievable part of the movie for me. I could excuse this, especially once I learned they actually did it. Yeah. With some help, but I'll allow that because movie. Right. Where what I do have the problem with is when what comes up shortly after. Because the bus gets they they route themselves to LAX. Yep. Because Jack comes up with a plan on the fly. If we get to the airport, we can just loop around the runways. And you lose all the media helicopters. Right, because it's a no-fly zone, and so the helicopters won't be able to enter. Smart. It is smart. Except for um the longest runway at LAX is 2.5 miles long. Okay. Um a bus going 50 miles an hour is going to get from end to end in about three minutes. Yeah, I was gonna say a little less than that, actually. Yeah, it'll be about three. So they cover one mile every 1.2 minutes. Yeah. So to if you're gonna go 2.5, it comes out to almost exactly three minutes of straight line drive. Okay. Now there's not like an in airports, you don't have like a loop that goes around. I mean, even even going from runway to runway, it's a pretty tight turn around. It's a rectangle, not an oval, yeah. And you know, it's not like there's a giant loop that goes all around LAX. You have two runways to the south and two runways to the north, and there's not a loop that goes from the south to the north. And so they kind of created their own little geography there. And which most people wouldn't care about, but I know enough about airport operations, and I know that you do, Brian. Sure. That it bothered the shit out of me.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:48

You know, there's something that happened right before that that bothered the shit out of me.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:53

So when they entered the tarmac, they ran over some reversible spikes.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:59

Yes, they did.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:00

And that comes up later. Uh-huh. But why were the tires not shredded immediately?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:06

Yeah. I mean, come on, those are those are one-way spikes. And clearly, and they did show that the bus had redundant tires on the back wheels, which is fine. But but yeah, there should have been some damage or some slowing down because they made it clear to show that they ran over the friggin', you know, do not enter spikes, but there was no immediate impact to the vehicle based upon that.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:32

Redundant tires. Both tires ran over those spikes. Redundant tires, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:38

Uh, but anyway, but once they are they are on the the runways and they're going around and driving their loops, uh, Jack is able, you know, to um work with with pain to get permission to basically step off, get off the bus. Right. Because so that way he can negotiate for him on his behalf. And he he's, you know, can works out some deal where where Which if I'm paying, I say no, you have a phone. Yeah. But he has to negotiate in person. Right. Oh, that's the only way to negotiate. But once he's off the bus, they they come up with this crazy plan to to that Jack has to, since they can't unload the passengers, they have to disarm the bomb to take pain out of the equation. And so Jack gets on this little sled thing. Gets on this little sled thing, which is pulled by a truck that drives in front of the bus. Right. And pulley, this pulley thing releases his releases him. He slides back under the bus so he can check out the bomb. Now I want to go back to the whole LAX runway length situation. They're not turning. They're not turning. To able to make this maneuver work, they have to both be driving in straight lines.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:07

Yep. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:08

Because Jack is now dangling off a cable on a wheelie cart. On a wheelie cart under the goddamn bus. Uh-huh. So both have to be driving in straight lines. Everything somehow timed out perfectly. You would have three minutes max to do this and then get out. Yep. But when the tether snaps three minutes and thirty-three seconds later, uh, he's nearly lost in this process. Yeah. He would have actually technically been ran over long before that. Right. As they as they move. 33 seconds minimum earlier. But not to get too technical. Movie. Movie. Absolutely. Yeah, he's nearly lost through this process, but he's pulled back in by the passengers.

SPEAKER_15 1:30:07

Did you have any luck with the bomb? Yeah, it didn't go off.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:12

One of my favorite things. So one of the passengers, the big dude, the construction guy, Ortiz. Yeah, but he calls him Gigantor. Gigantor. I think that's an awesome name. The next big giant dude I see, I'm gonna call Gigantor.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:27

Um, yeah, but but in the process of saving himself and before Gigantor pulls him in, Jack does puncture the gas tank with a screwdriver trying to save himself. Right. Uh, because, you know, of course, you know, they didn't have enough issues to deal with already. True, I know. Now they're also running out of gas. Now, while Jack's been having his fun and games with the bus, Harry's been back in the office tracking down as much information as possible about who the possible bomber could be. And along the way, it occurs to him that because this bomber is using all these different techniques and has these different things, maybe he's not a bomber after all. Maybe he's a bomb expert. Maybe, just maybe he's a cop. Because he talked about retiring and getting a gold watch. Yeah, and you know, and Jack, while he's under the bus, happens to notice that there's a gold watch that's part of the bomb mechanism. Yep. Well, they do their due diligence and they find the guy. Because Harry's seen what what the bomber looks like. Yep. And they track down that they, oh, hey, here's this bomb disposal expert from the Atlanta PD who blew off a finger. We got our bad guy. We got our guy, and this is our scumbag, he says. We got our scumbag. And so they they they go to track down uh the house, or they get to have the address, and so they go to to Payne's house, and Harry is the first in, and all the SWAT team go in trying to to to stop you know Payne there, and it turns out to be booby trapped. He's not there, and he's not there, and the house blows up, and Harry dies.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:16

You know, I think the thing that I hated about that whole scene is they didn't even talk about Harry dying. Not very much.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:24

It was like he it happened, and I was like, they never revisited, they never did like a memorial, like nothing.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:30

It was just like kind of so so Pain tells Jack that Harry's dead first, yeah. And Jack goes nuts. Uh-huh. That's his best friend.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:40

Yeah. But like now, that never came back to it. And I just seemed kind of weird. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:45

My question in this moment why would Harry, someone who still has a bad leg from being recently shot? That was my question.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:53

So he was recently shot the night before at the award ceremony. He had a cane. Yeah. And then the next day he's dressed in SWAT gear without the cane, crawling through windows and going into this house.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:06

Like I number one, I don't even know that he would be cleared for that kind of action. Right. And number two, he definitely is not the right person to be the first guy in in that condition. Oh, and also number three.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:20

This guy has gone to extreme lengths. Planned his first elevator thing for two years.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:27

Has this pretty brilliant idea for that bus that he planned out in a week or so?

SPEAKER_03 1:33:33

Why would you not think that the bomber's house wouldn't be rigged?

SPEAKER_06 1:33:37

Right. Do you know what I mean? Like in your part of the bomb squad, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:33:42

I don't know why Harry was the first guy through the window into the house. With the bum leg. With the bum leg. And and even beyond that, would the bomb disposal guy be the first person in on the scene? No, hell no. I've I mean, I'm not an expert, but I've watched the hurt locker. And they don't call Jeremy Renner in until they've at least got the situation under control. Right. The perimeter secured. Yeah. Um, but so in this case, it feels weird to me that Harry's the first guy in. And then also I think it betrays all the expertise and all the wisdom we've been led to believe he has that within moments of getting through the house, he sets off the booby trap that blows it all to shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:25

Yep. But yet how uncomfortable was that half a second. It was. When he's in the house and he knows the house is booby-trapped and there's nothing he can do about it. That was uncomfortable. It was. That was a good movie moment.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:40

And to your point, Justin, yeah, there there's very little tribute given, but also it's understandable given the fact that in the timeline of this movie, only really minutes have passed. Right. True. I mean, he's on a bus with a bomb on it. Which would he's got other fish to fry. Well, this timeline I'll talk about later, too. It's so truncated. And it feels like a lot of time has passed, but also ultimately almost no time has passed. True. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:11

I mean, from start to finish, maybe a couple hours.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:13

Yeah. But anyway, um, ultimately, Jack is on the bus. He doesn't know about anything that's happened to Harry until Payne calls.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:22

It was the watch that led him to me, wasn't it? Huh? It seemed a little hammy to me to build the bomb out of my precious retirement gift, but you know, I figured a sign that said Howard Payne. Would be pushing it.

SPEAKER_14 1:35:39

I'm gonna rip your fucking spine out, I swear to God.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:42

You're gonna do exactly as you told. Jack, we both know that he was the brains of your particular operation. You can't beat me, you're gonna pay me every dollar. Otherwise, you, the Wildcat, and every innocent person on that bus are gonna end up just like your friend.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:01

Well, Howard gave himself away with that comment. Right. Because Jack, after mulling it over, is like Wildcat.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:08

Well, it's the second time he's referred to her as Wildcat. He referred to her as Wildcat earlier.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:13

Who's Wildcat? And then sees that Annie has an Arizona sweatshirt. Yep. And realizes, oh the Arizona Wildcats. How would he have known that? Right? I didn't know that. I definitely didn't say that. He can see us. He can see us. And then happens to notice that right behind the friggin' sun visor is a goddamn giant ass camera. Right. Come on now. You should have known that from the beginning. That thing wasn't delicate. That thing wasn't discreet. How did you miss that? Yeah. Too much panic going on. Yeah. True. I mean, that that's plausible. You're just you're worried about the bomb. That thing was the size of a goddamn shoe box. It was the size of a fucking dinner plate. It was like a full-on, like that was like the hidden camera in UHF, the Pavlov hidden in RJ Fletcher's office. It was giant. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. I hate that we were referenced to UHF. Yeah, but but anyway, so so they realize that there's a camera there and they're being watched. Well, it just so happens. Okay, well, if there's a camera here, how is it broadcasting? Well, it's got to be UHF. Well, okay, there's a TV station right here using a microwave truck broadcasting their single. I wonder if they can intercept UHF. Lo and behold, they sure enough can because Mac gets them to do it. Yep. And they record a loop of everyone on the bus just sitting still, and then they basically broadcast that loop over. So now all that pain is seeing is the same repeating loop. I have a question. Yeah. You're the A V guy. I I've done some things in that field, yes. Is this plausible? It's not implausible. That's not answer my question. Other than one thing. Yeah. Okay. So they have the guy in the truck record a one-minute loop on a V essentially is a is I think it looked like it was a beta, but basically it's the equivalent of a VHS tape. Sure. And then they tell him, I need you to play that on a loop. Okay, but you can't loop a VHS tape. No, not at all. Now, today, yes, I could digitally record a one-minute clip and just set it to automatically loop. At that point, you would have to, and I don't know, maybe in the broadcast, maybe they had different tools, maybe you could have, but the way they showed it and the way they said it, it sounded like basically I need you to loop that tape, which meant that you would have to play that tape and then rewind it and play it again. Now, you know, if you had two tapes, you'd have to cut it and splice it. If you had two tapes, you could technically play one while you're rewinding the other and switch between them. And play the other, yeah. So it's not impossible, but they over but they oversimplify the explanation. Okay, so the good part is that lay people like me who watched it were like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:23

Yeah. Yeah. I did I my note is looping the feed was smart.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:34

I don't know. I don't know whether so okay. So when I was in college, I was in I was in college from ninety seven to two thousand one-ish. And that was the time when digital editing really had its big breakthrough. And the college I went to uh at one at that point had more what they call nonlinear editing systems than any other production house or TV station in the region. And that was pretty much and that was only three. We had three systems, and that was the most. That was several years after Speed came out. Right. So there was nonlinear computer-based editing going on, but I doubt it would have been in the production truck. At that point, you would have been doing tape-to-tape editing, uh, and and you would quickly splice together a package so that you could basically broadcast out to the network.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:30

No offense, but I think we've devolved into nerdy talk. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:36

You asked me to go into my world. I did, I did, I did, and I I respect you for that. And I hope you regret it.

SPEAKER_12 1:40:44

I do. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:46

Yeah. So, but anyway, yeah. So so the looping of tape, not impossible, definitely very possible in today's world. At that point, it was probably improbable.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:59

You know, but the lay person watching it probably didn't know that.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:02

And movie. Yeah, movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:06

So is that more or less believable than the jumping the 50 foot in the bus?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:10

Jumping 50 foot unassisted on a bus, more believable. Jumping 50 foot assisted on a bus, less believable. Gotcha. Okay. Uh anyway. So they're able to loop the tape, and this buys now time for them to evacuate the pastor. So they get everybody off the bus. And here's the thing I brought up earlier.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:32

You have that lady, just like in the elevator, who didn't want to get off the bus.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:37

Yep. Someone who was a bit scared, not comfortable, not willing to make that jump. But this time it was the guy who was cameraman from Paris Bueller. It was the tourist. He was like, Oh, I don't want to go. There's a fucking bomb on the bus. Get off the bus.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:52

I don't know if I'm even walking on that plank. I'm just diving on the bus into the other one. I don't want to be on a bus with a bomb on. No. Take me anywhere. I'm out. Done. Although I did think it was smart when Jack, when the that other bus pulled up and they put the plank down, he was pointing at people and saying, Okay, one, two, three, you go.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:11

You know, he was really organizing it, really showed his chops. Mm-hmm. Yep. He was air traffic control. He was ground control to Major Tom. Anyway, so they get everyone off, but but then their little ramp falls apart. And so now that the ramp is now gone for go from bus to bus. It's Annie and Jack the only ones left. And but they were given things to prop the pedal. And now the tires are starting to blow. And finally. And they're running out of gas. Yeah. And their time is limited. And so Jack's like, okay, here's the plan. Let's prop this pedal down. We're going to tuw the rope on the steering wheel. And then you and I are going to slide out the middle of the bus on the access hatch. Yes. And we're going to ride under the bus and and skid ourselves to safety and then let the bus go careening off wherever it's going to go. And so that's what happens. They they escape. Did you notice when they do that? You can see the wheels on the There weren't wheels on the access hatch. So number one, no, you have an access hatch that you open from the inside.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:23

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:24

Which means people can walk across it.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:26

Which means you're not going to be able to slide that through the hole to get it down on the ground. Yeah, that was that was sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:32

Yeah, you can. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:33

So so you turn it sideways, you get it down at an angle.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:36

That's what they showed. That's not what they showed. Honestly, I had both of your thoughts simultaneously. Okay. Because I saw that, I'm like, that wouldn't fit. And then I'm like, oh, maybe they put it in an angle. But then I look at it again. I'm like, no, that wouldn't fit. They just slid it. That's not how they did it. That's not how they did it. You're right. You're right. Now that I think about it, you're right. Anyway. So yeah. So they they opened one access panel and clearly swapped in another one that was slightly smaller than the hole. And then yeah, they they they got on the access panel and let go of the rope and went for a ride under the bus and slid through some cones and went through the dirt and then had a happy smoochie time. While the bus went off and continued to careen and went through a terminal and plowed into a cargo plane and then exploded. It turned into a Michael Bailey.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:26

It did. Was anybody on that plane? I noticed. It was pulling it. It was being towed.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:32

It was being towed. All right. But I gotta tell you, my favorite moment of the entire movie was the guy who jumps out of the tow vehicle and looked at the explosion. Because we've already had the explosion. This was after the explosion. A bus plowed into the plane, it immediately exploded. And then we cut to the wide shot where we see the tow vehicle still pulling the burning and exploding plane. A guy then jumps out, looks back, and he's like, shit, and runs off. That was the moment. I'm like, fuck yeah. I looked for that guy in the end credits and didn't see him. I didn't find him. I that guy was awesome. Oh my god. I'm I hope he wore his brown pants that day. So that's the movie, right? No! Hell no! I mean, they got off the bus. I know it could be.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:26

It should have been. It could have been. It should have been.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:30

That's the movie. But what happened? We could stop there. We could. Yeah. We could stop. So Payne calls. Because I think everyone else on the scene thinks, oh, we're done. But then Payne calls. He's like, hey, when am I getting my money? Oh. Payne doesn't know that the bus has exploded. Because the loop is still going. Because the loop is still going. So everyone's like, hey, guys. We got a chance. We can catch this mofo.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:01

Which is leading up to my biggest fallacy of the movie. Not to say that there already haven't been a ton. Uh-huh. But yeah. Continue, Seth.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:14

Yeah, so um they all go to rush to the point where Payne has money to be dropped. Now, Payne is up in his no one knows this, but he's up in his his roost watching this trash can where they're supposed to put the unmarked bills. And Payne is watching and he sees the snipers and he sees all the different things. And because he's an experienced police officer, he knows what the routines are going to be. And so he's got it all planned out. And so while they're all swooping in and they think they're being all incognito, they're not. No. And you know, for some reason, Jack and Annie are in an ambulance at this point, and they the ambulance just pulls up to a stop, and Jack's like, I'll be right back. And he hops out. I'm sorry, let me rephrase that. I'll be right back. I'm an LA. LA?

SPEAKER_05 1:47:08

I'm gonna get some tacos. Hey bro, I'll be raba. You haven't had tacos until I've got to be a little bit of a few.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:14

So then he goes into the their command centerslash bodega. Yeah. Uh and leaves Annie with the ambulance. Which, if they've, you know, had a moment, I don't think I leave her out of my sight. Yeah. Now, while Payne sees all this going on, he's he's like it it he happens to then look back at his monitor of the bus, and suddenly he notices that it's a loop. There's a loop because there's something in this woman's lap now, and then it's gone. Yeah, she dropped her frickin' purse. And oh, wow, clever, Jack. I know what you did. And so now Payne is like, hmm, he formulates a new plan, which is to dress up like a police officer and abduct Annie. Yeah, he puts his old uh uniform on and he walks out there amongst the other cops, just strolls right up and comes up to Annie. He's like, hey, shouldn't be this close. And Annie's Jack Traven told me to come get you out of here. Annie's dumb enough to leave the ambulance. Yeah. I want to get out and look around. See what's going on. First of all, if if you were just dry come on, if you were just gonna go to the police command center, why did you need an ambulance for that? Well, she has a she had a scrape on her leg. Why like And who's with her? Who's who's watching her? I think you assigned somebody to be with her. You would think so.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:42

Well, wouldn't the ambulance just go to the hospital?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:45

You would think that would be a logical That's like where they go in an emergency. I'm gonna go to where we're gonna apprehend the bad guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:53

I picked up my patients. Now I'm gonna stop for a donut.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:57

I want to go where the people are. I wanna see, I want to see them dancing.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:03

What's that from?

SPEAKER_04 1:49:04

Oh, mermaid.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:05

Oh, that's right. The who's it's in what's it score? That's right.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:09

Yeah, yeah. Uh, but anyway, yeah, so so Payne now has Annie. Maybe I'll pick that for my next movie. I would love that. Um that's going on, um, a trash truck pulls up to the trash can where the money's supposed to be dropped off. That drops the money.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:33

He's obviously a cop.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:34

Yep, and they drop the money off in the trash can. And you know, Jack and Mac, after a while, I didn't really even realize that rhymes. Jack and Mac realize that uh that Travens or that that pain's late. We're he's not shown up yet. And suddenly you're like, hey, you know what? We should track the money. Let's let's check the tracker. We put a tracker in it, and sure enough, it's moving. The money's moving.

SPEAKER_14 1:49:57

The money's moving.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:58

And then they go check the trash can. Turns out under the trash scene, there's a goddamn hole. Why wouldn't you be tracking the money the whole time? I don't know. But but you know, that's that's one because the guy was too egotistical.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:08

No, we got snipers on it, we're good. We're there's no idea that there was a hole underneath, number one. And I had a number two, but I've had too much rolls.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:18

I'm gonna ask uh I'll bring up a number two. Do we need a break? Not yet. Okay. Alright, but uh, but but honestly, I'm surprised we gotten this far with a character named Jack that we haven't made a jack off reference. So, you know. I think I'm a little bit more mature than that. So the fact I'm talking about a number two, you know, at this point, I feel good about because I had already jacked after the upskirt scene in the elevator.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:45

There you go.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:46

Oh anyway. Um, how would there be a hole under the trash can that goes down to the subway tunnel? Who put that hole there? How long would it have taken to put that hole there? And how has no one noticed a man putting that hole there? Well, the the the cop who put the money in there should have noticed. He should have noticed that there was a yeah, cause yeah, because he like came up, pulled the trash bag, and then just tossed something in. I guess but but yeah. It doesn't matter. At some point, someone has been drilling and boring a two-foot wide circular hole through a city the sidewalk pavement and through multiple feet of earth to reach the subway tunnel. And also did you say earth? Earth. Welcome to earth. Welcome to Earth, um slap and all the name out your mouth.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:55

Right? Didn't we just kind of like conclude that maybe this plan was a week old?

unknown 1:52:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:02

Like this whole thing was done in a week, and he was able this old man. I would say two weeks max. This old man was able to do all that drilling and digging.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:10

He he into a like a public subway where everyone would have seen him that was just walking by. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:16

There's no way you're able to bore a two-foot hole from a city sidewalk down into a subway tunnel. Because that's that would be, I would think, a minimum of 10 to 12 feet. You know, it wasn't actually into a subway tunnel, it was into an access area.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:34

All right, but even so it would have been hidden from public view.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:37

Even that would have had some form of probably concrete roof. Oh, definitely. That hole had to be actually 10, 14 feet long. And drilling through drilling through a minimum of probably two four-inch layers of concrete.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:52

And where did all that dirt and concrete go? Like if he's digging from underneath up to this trash can.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:00

Well, he's probably or e either way, if he's drilling, boring from up down or down up, there would be a giant pile of rubble and such was he doing something the Shaw Shank redemption.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:12

Just scooping out little pocket folds at a time. You know how he did it? Oh. Movie. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's it. We solved it.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:23

That's the only logical one. Anyway, so they realize there's a hole. Yep. And so Jag's like, oh shit, I gotta go down the subway. And sure enough, as soon as he gets down the subway, he jumps on the hole and he sees a figure. Yeah, a shadow. And he's like, whoa, hold it.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:39

Pop quiz asshole. You have a hair trigger aimed at your head. What do you do? What do you do?

SPEAKER_04 1:53:46

What do you do? Shit your pants.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:49

Turn around.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:52

But lo and behold, it's Annie. It's Annie. It's Annie. I don't know how he didn't realize it wasn't pain from the silhouette alone. Well, they were kind of around a corner and he just saw the shadow. It was a very feminine shadow, though. So I think you have a feminine shadow.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:12

Fuck you.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:14

A shadow with lady lumps.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:16

Be prepared.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:18

Well, she didn't have a vest of explosives.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:21

What are you gonna do, Jack? I don't think you can shoot her. Let her go.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:26

He could shoot her.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:27

He could. Absolutely could.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:29

Shoot the hostage. Shoot the hostage. I mean, he did it to his partner.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:35

So Payne has strapped an explosive vest on Annie. Yep. And he then escapes with Annie onto a subway train. Uh Payne shoes everyone off the train. Are these seats taken? Yeah. And he he rushes them off. He's got this uh, I believe that's an MP5 submachine gun. Um which this is also one of those things. It's dumb. I don't know why. But every other moment we've seen Payne with a weapon, it's been something simple, like a sawn-off shotgun.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:09

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:09

And so now to have him with this with the super shiny MP5 seems like a betrayal of his character. It does. Um But anyway, he he's firing the gun left and right, and and you know, then the the conductor of the train is, you know, on the verge of radioing for help, but Payne's like, fuck that, and he shoots in the the driver of the tra of the subway. And he shoots up the shoots up the controls in the process. Yeah. And he chains he he handcuffs Annie to the pole, and basically, you know, explains, you know, hey, you know, you got this vest, and if I drop this thing, you're gonna blow up.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:50

And he tells her, I'm gonna make my escape, I'm gonna hit that thing, and you're gonna die. They're not gonna be able to tell who's you and who's me, and they're gonna think we're both dead and I'm gonna be free and clear. But but don't worry, it's not gonna hurt.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:05

Yeah. That's pretty brutal. It is. Jack has wedged his way into the train. Yes. And of course, a very close call as the train's pulling away. He wedges himself in through the door just before he would have been clipped by a guardrail of some kind. Right. And probably killed. Yeah. But but it doesn't happen, don't worry. Because a movie. He's in the train. Payne doesn't know he's in the train, so Jack's able to sneak up and see all what's going on. And then somehow manages to sneak onto the roof of the train. This is another issue I have. Getting onto the roof of the subway was so easy for everybody. Yeah, no one seems to have any problem getting onto the roof of a subway train. That's moving. Yeah, it's super easy, super quick. No one notices. Not a problem. Payne, though, somehow, even though he didn't notice Jack was on the train, he does notice when Jack is on top of the train and starts firing randomly at the ceiling. Do you think you could hear somebody on the top of a subway as the subway's moving? I do not. I don't either. I don't think so, no. Uh but then Payne's like, oh, okay, I'm gonna go deal with this. And so he then suddenly is on the roof of the train. He just appears on the roof. Now he's got a mangled hand. How the hell did he get on the roof? And then they they wrestle. They wrestle.

SPEAKER_11 1:57:27

All he has to do is his plan of escaping off the train, blowing it up, and he blows both of them up.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:34

Exactly. Yeah. Because Jack's already on the roof of the train. I can't really do much. Alright. Whatever. What are you gonna do from the roof? So but Payne goes up onto the roof of the train, still holding the dead man switch, and wrestles with Jack the whole time. Until Jack, while somehow, despite being a much younger and I would assume more physically fit individual, probably more apt for wrestling than what Payne is, gets his ass beat by Payne, and while he's being held down, Jack happens to see there's an upcoming sign hanging from the ceiling, and Jack just happens to push Payne up right in the nick of time.

unknown 1:58:15

What do you do, Jack? Huh? What do you do?

SPEAKER_13 1:58:17

You're so smart, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:58:39

And then he gets his head taken off by the time.

SPEAKER_14 1:58:42

He says, I'm taller.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:45

Yeah. So he pushes his head up, he gets hit by the light hanging down from the top of the subway tunnel, decapitates pain, and he says, A total Arnold Schwarzenegger. You know, pull off Masta La Vista.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:03

Now could you imagine I'm taller? How hard it would be to fight somebody laying down when you've got like maybe a foot of clearance and that's it on a moving subway. Right. Yeah. Like how you couldn't throw a like a solid punch. No. You know? Like it'd be like a slap fight.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:22

This whole train sequence, despite all the things we've brought up previously, the issues here and there is the weakest part of the movie for me.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:33

I totally agree. All of the movie physics involved with the bus are totally plausible now. Because of the movie physics that happened on the subway. But it gets worse.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:46

It does.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:46

It gets worse.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:47

Yeah, because you know, Payne is no longer in the picture. He's dead here. Jack somehow shimmies his way back into the train. Disable, disables the dead man switch. And gets disarms the vest and takes the vest off Annie. So now that's they're not at risk of blowing up. But but but they realize they're running out of track because the subway track isn't complete and that we have to stop this train. But god damn it. The controls are shot to hell, and I can hit the emergency stop button, but it won't stop. And Mac is radioing in saying, Hey Jack, are you there? You've got to stop this train because they're out of track coming up. I don't know how Mac even knew Jack was on the train, but somehow he was radioing to him on the train. Not really the issue. The issue is that yeah, they're running a track and and and they can't stop. And Jack can't get Annie off the train because she's handcuffed onto the train, and Jack doesn't have a key for the handcuffs. Yep. And he can't break the he can't break the bowl yeah. God damn. Yeah. What a day. And so Jack comes up with a new plan. A new plan.

SPEAKER_10 2:00:54

Jack, please, Mr. Hattenance! Jack, come on, you gotta get off this train. This is crazy.

SPEAKER_14 2:00:59

There's a curve ahead. I'm gonna speed it up.

SPEAKER_10 2:01:05

This is really stupid. Jack, please, you can still jump. Jack, please! Please! Jack!

SPEAKER_04 2:01:13

And so he speeds up the train. Yeah, because there's a curve coming up. Because he wants to throw it off the track. Somehow the only controls that respond are the go faster. I noticed that. I noticed that. You can't stop it. You can't stop it. Can't slow it down. But I can go faster, goddammit. Because the name of the movie speed Speed. More speed. So because movie, they speed the train up as it's approaching a curve, derailing the train, sending it careening off the tracks through construction site, the slope, up an incline, and out onto the fucking street. Those poor construction workers. Oh my god!

SPEAKER_06 2:01:54

No doubt. They were bailing left and right.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:56

I felt so bad for those guys. Uh-huh. They were taking such pride in their work only to have it all destroyed.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:02

Okay, but I have to say, with the practical effects and all the stunts, how awesome was it to see the subway pop up through the station onto the street, and that was really, really cool.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:18

It would have been really cool had I not seen a bus jump a 50 foot. Seeing a subway just burst out of a eventually a banner, meh. It was cool, I guess. It was cool, but I already been spoiled. And then it came to rest against a tourist van. Right. Yeah, and so all the and I love the tourist guy, the the driver of the tourist van gets out like, oh my gosh, how dare they hit my van. Right. And all the tourists get out and they all have cameras. They all have cameras. Taking pictures of them making out. Yep, and the and Jack and Annie survived. They survive and bonded. And the poll is gone now. And and and they and they smooch. You smooch.

SPEAKER_14 2:03:08

I have to warn you. I've heard relationships based on intents experiences never work.

SPEAKER_10 2:03:16

Okay. We'll have to base it on sex then.

SPEAKER_14 2:03:20

Oh, yeah. Whatever you say, man. And that's the movie.

SPEAKER_06 2:03:30

That's the movie. That is the movie.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:32

I gotta say, this movie stayed above 50 miles an hour the whole way.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:37

Damn stream, it did. It did. Well, before we talk about anything else, what do you guys say we take a moment? And talk about our third beer. Uh, third beer, but fourth drink of the evening.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:54

Justin, this was your pick. This is my pick. Tell me all about it. So this is the first time on this show that I'm tired of drinking. So this is uh the Sierra Nevada West Ghost. Modern West Coast IPA. I obviously chose it because this movie was based in California. And this is a West Coast IPA. Alright. And wait a yeah. I had one earlier, and I like it. I still like it. May not be up to your taste buds, but it's a solid IPA.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:33

It is completely up to my taste buds. And I gotta tell you, after the uh the Imperial Stout, this is such a refreshing, bright punch to my taste buds. Oh my gosh, it's so good. Sarah Nevada makes good beers. After that stout, this beer. Oh, is it bitter? Yeah, it's awfully bitter. And that's gonna be a good thing or a bad thing. I'm in for it. I'm not. Yeah. Oh boy.

SPEAKER_06 2:05:06

It's not a you thing. You're you're not the West Coast IPA guy. You know, I like uh I like a juicy IPA.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:13

I love a juicy IPA. The East Coast style, the the hazy's, and yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:05:19

I just wish this was a little juicier and a little less dry. I I do like a West Coast every once in a while.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:25

You know, I'm a big fan of hazy, but we've talked about it. I'm poor. Poor for hazy's. Oh yeah. But man, every once in a while I just I really do like a solid West Coast, bitter tongue punch.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:39

This reminds me of an IPA that came from India to England and they added the extra hops to keep it from uh spoiling. And so they super hop it. Mmm. Wow. This really punches my taste buds and dries me out. That's the history. It is the history. History. History.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:00

That's why they call it an India pale ale. That's true. Yeah. Very true. This one fun facts.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:08

This one is another, it's it's a 7.2%. And I am gonna feel all of these in the morning. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:17

Holy moly.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:19

Hey, if you're a hop head, you'll love the spear.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:21

Yep. I love it. It's a good one. I'm not a hop head. Hey guys, what do you say? We talk some magic wands. Oh, I like the window. If you could wave your magic wand and change one thing and one thing only about speed to make it a better movie, what would that be? You wanna go first? You want me to? I can jump in there.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:45

I'd get rid of the subway scene altogether.

SPEAKER_12 2:06:49

Yes!

SPEAKER_06 2:06:50

I'm with you completely. Uh the subway track isn't finished, storyline is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_09 2:06:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:06:59

We already had the unfinished freeway moment. So going back to the same incomplete infrastructure idea again was just a bit too bad.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:08

Okay. So so the way I phrased it is this if the bus running into the cargo plane and exploding was a lobster and steak dinner, the whole subway scene was dessert in the form of a hostess fruit pie. Now, you guys know me. Yep. I love my food from gas stations, and I've eaten more than a few hostess fruit pies over the years, even this week. But given the choice, I would much rather finish my meal with some bananas foster, some creme brulee, or maybe even some tiramisu. And so I feel like for all the work and effort they put in up to the bus explosion, what they finished with is kind of a letdown. It was. It was. It really was.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:07

I see that. Now my magic wand, other than the physics. I would have liked more backstory and character development on Pain. A little less goofy genius and a little more motive-driven maniacal villain. Okay, I wanted some more backstory on Payne. On Pain? Yeah. He just kind of came in and was like, I'm gonna blow shit up.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:34

Okay. I think they gave a decent amount of backstory. I was wanting more. Maybe, maybe just a tinge more. Why was he so upset? Well, it made it clear that he he basically got pushed out of his job because he lost a finger on the job, and then basically he had to he has watch as his pension and support, but really he felt like he got screwed.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:55

Well, why don't they go back and show how he lost that finger? I don't want to take that time.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:00

It's already a two-hour movie.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:02

It was. But but I would have liked to have known more of why he became this maniacal villain.

SPEAKER_06 2:09:08

I think that would be great, especially if you got rid of the entire subway scene.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:12

Because he's just compromised. All right, so let's just do it all. That's a great idea. Let's tackle both both ones.

SPEAKER_03 2:09:19

You get rid of that subway scene, you open up enough time to bring in some backstory.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:24

Yeah. I love it. Oh, we're good at this. All right. Yeah. We are good at this. Well, we nailed that. We're professionals. Are you guys ready to nail something else? What are we talking about? Let's find out. Let's go.

SPEAKER_03 2:09:38

Damn. Oh my. It sounds like we're getting ready to nail something. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07 2:10:24

Pop quiz.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:30

Alright, it's time to raise the stakes. This isn't just trivia anymore. This is a situation. Welcome to Pop Quiz. Hot Shot, the game where the questions come fast, the pressure stays high, and if your brain drops below 50, well, let's just say it's not gonna end very well. I'm gonna fire up questions about the casting crew of speed, some easy, some sneaky, and a few that feel like they were planted by a man with a serious grudge and way too much free time. No lifelines, no googling, no slowing down. Get it right, you stay on the busts. Get it wrong, we may or may not leave you behind. Alright! Pop quiz hot shot.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:16

I've had too many beers. Let's ride. Oh no. Okay, real quick before we start. Yeah. I gotta really compliment Seth's funk.

SPEAKER_16 2:11:25

These last couple episodes, he has brought the funk. He has brought the funk. Yeah, it's I'm trying.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:31

I'm trying. And and not the odoriferous smell. I'm talking funk is part of the music. Well, I'll be honest, guys.

SPEAKER_04 2:11:37

I played some pickleball earlier today, have not showered between then and now, so it could be both kinds. Well, you know what? I hugged it earlier and I didn't smell it. Well, I put some extra deodorant on just in case. I could that gold bond powder is awesome. All right, who wants to go first? I'm gonna say that Brian has to go first. Brian has to go first.

SPEAKER_06 2:11:56

Okay, I go first all the time.

SPEAKER_04 2:11:59

Here's the deal if you Couldn't pick up from the song. I'm gonna ask some questions. Okay. And they're gonna come rapid fire. You have five seconds to give me an answer. If you get it right, you get a point. If you don't, your opponent has a chance to steal. Five seconds. Sorry. That's it. Some are gonna be easy. Some maybe not so much. I bet Justin's gonna get the easy ones. All right. So, Brian, if you're going first. Yep. Keanu Reeves played Neo in what 1999 sci-fi film? Matrix. Justin Alan Ruck, the tourist on the bus, is best known for playing Cameron Fry in what 1986 movie? Ferris Bieler's Day Off. Nice. Brian, Joe Morton played Dr. Miles Dyson in what famous sequel? Speed two. Alright, Justin, you have a chance to steal. Oh, yeah. What's the answer? What's the question? Joe Morton played Dr. Miles Dyson in what sequel?

SPEAKER_06 2:13:05

Fuck, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:06

Oh, I know it! It's Terminator 2. Terminator 2 judgment. Yeah, we did. We did talk about that. I was under so much pressure. Son of it. Alright, so Justin. Okay. Sandra Bullock starred alongside Ryan Reynolds in what 2009 rom-com. The proposal. Easy. Brian Hawthorne James, who also plays Sam the bus driver, appeared in what movie about a serial killer? Time's up. I don't know. Justin, do you know? Silence of the Lambs?

SPEAKER_03 2:13:48

Damn it. Answer was seven.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:52

Alright, Justin. Dennis Hopper directed and starred in what 1969 biker film?

SPEAKER_06 2:14:00

Easy writer.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:03

We talked about it earlier.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:06

Justin leaves three to one.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:07

I wouldn't have known that.

SPEAKER_06 2:14:09

Had we not talked about it.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:11

Brian, what other movie was Jeff Daniels filming at the same time he was filming Speed? Number dumber. Alright, brings it up to three to two. I wish I wouldn't have brought that up earlier. Yeah, thank you. Justin! Jeff Daniels won an Emmy for playing a news anchor on what HBO series. Oh, shoot.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:36

Uh the desk. Brian. Newsroom?

unknown 2:14:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:48

Yeah, yeah. I happen to pay attention. I'm too drunk. Dennis Hopper. Oh, this is Brian. Okay. Dennis Hopper once played a villain in a live-action video game movie. Name it. The Mario, Mario movie. Yeah, Super Mario Brothers, I'll excited. Thank you. Thank you. Brian takes the lead four to three. Ooh. Justin. Uh-oh. Keanu Reeves played quarterback Shane Falco in what movie? Uh, longest yard. Brian. The replacements. Oh yeah. I don't know. I don't know that one. That's really baby. Brian takes is up now five to three. Boners. Brian. Yeah. Sandra Bullocks provided the voice of villain Scarlet Overkill in what animated film? Ah, jeez.

SPEAKER_05 2:15:46

The minions.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:52

All right. Brian's up six to three. Damn it. Like it's a surprise. Justin. I don't know things. Justin. Joe Morton played Malcolm X in what biographical film? X. Brian, do you have an answer? Malcolm?

SPEAKER_09 2:16:20

Ali.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:21

He was Malcolm X in Ali, the biographical film of Muhammad Ali. No, I didn't see that one. Yeah. I didn't either. I don't see a lot of things. Alright. Brian. Yeah. Sandra Bullock played Bertie Calvert in what 1998 romantic comedy that also starred Harry Connick Jr. Hope Floats. Have you seen Hope Floats? No. Great movie. I wouldn't have known it. Oh, great movie. Justin. Helen, the panic pastor who falls through the floor in speed, played by Beth Grant, played the babysitter for which character on The Office?

SPEAKER_03 2:17:02

Oh, uh, uh, Jim.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:07

Jim and Pam. No. Brian. I have no idea. I'm gonna say Pam I don't know. Dwight Schroot. She was Dwight Schroot's babysit uh sitter who he later had sexual relations with.

SPEAKER_06 2:17:22

I thought you were talking about like uh people that had kids on the show.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:26

They were Dwight was a kid, he she was his babysitter, and he later had sexual relations with her. That was a poorly written question, Seth. Oh, I just said he was she was the babysitter. She's in the the dinner party episode. Yeah, I know. I've seen it.

SPEAKER_06 2:17:43

But like I thought that she was like you were talking about she was the babysitter of a kid from someone that whatever.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:51

Fuck off. All right. Oh, okay, Brian. Yeah. Glenn Plummer, who plays the Jaguar driver, also appeared in the movie Showgirls. Yep. In what year did that movie come out? Showgirls? 1997. Justin.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:13

1998. 95.

unknown 2:18:17

Fuck.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:18

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:19

Justin, last question. Uh oh. I'm gonna lose anyway. Dennis Hopper battled space pirates and thousands of disintegrator robots in what 1996 movie? I have no fucking clue. I have no idea. I will tell you it's in space and it involves truckers.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:41

Still have no idea.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:44

Brian, any guess? Nope. The movie is space truckers. The answer was in the question. It was. And that was Pop Quiz Hot Shot Break. Reign Victorious. He survived the questions and kept it above 50, and somehow friendships are still mostly intact. Mostly. If you crushed it while listening along, congratulations. You're driving the bus. If you didn't, hey, at least you made it off in one piece.

unknown 2:19:22

Keep it moving. Don't lose control.

SPEAKER_08 2:19:31

I just didn't have no time to guess. Trivia, chaos, total stress. Stay alive, keep up the pace. Only once getting up this way.

SPEAKER_04 2:19:49

Alright, what do you guys say? We take a moment and pick some poison. Oh, I like this, yeah. That's my favorite, because there's no wrong answer. No, there's not at all. Alright, let's start off as we always do with movies from the same year, 1994. Would you rather watch Speed or Lion King? Speed. Speed. Speed. Speed or Forrest Gump. Oh, damn. I'm gonna go Forest Gump. Yeah, I'm gonna go Forrest Gump.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:19

I feel like I've seen Forest Gump so many times. Ice Cream. I'm gonna go speed. Alright. Jen A. Speed or True Lies.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:29

True lies. I'm gonna go speed.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:31

I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't really think I've ever seen True Lies.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:35

So I'm gonna go true lies.

SPEAKER_05 2:20:36

Oh the just the scene, the dancing scene with uh J Curtis. Oh, it's weird.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:44

That's a tough call. JL Speaker. I'll still go. Alright, speed or the mask. Speed. Speed.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:50

Speed 100%.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:51

Yep. Speed or Dumb and Dumber. Speed. Speed. Dumb and Dumber's awful.

SPEAKER_03 2:21:00

It is, but it's like one of those that like just like tickles my brain a little bit. I get it.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:07

As far as Jim Carrey movies go, it's it's probably one of the better ones. It's like one of those that you could just turn your brain off completely.

SPEAKER_06 2:21:14

Samsonite? You don't have to think about it. Yeah. It's just stupid fun. Like there is no mystery.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:22

Jeff Daniels with diarrhea.

unknown 2:21:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:24

But Jeff Daniels is so good at anything he does. I'm gonna go dumb and dumb. Okay. Okay. Alright, uh, let's talk about other movies with Keanu Reeves. Would you rather watch Speed or Point Break? Speed. Speed. Speed. Speed or the Matrix. The Matrix. Matrix. I'm going speed. I said The Matrix was a little weird to me. A little confusing.

SPEAKER_11 2:21:47

What is the the old lady with the cookies? What the hell? Yeah. I mean, I get it. I get it.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:51

It's a little Alice in Wonderland. Speed or John Wick. Oh, John Wick. I've not seen it, so I'm gonna go John Wick. Nice. Alright, Sandra Bullock movies. Speed or the proposal. The proposal. Speed. Betty White. Ah, she's a gem. Oh, how about uh Mama Cass? Love that. She's dancing out in the woods. Right? That's great. Speed or gravity. Not seen it, so I'll go gravity. Yeah, I'm not seeing gravity either. I'll go gravity. Yeah, I'm the same way. I haven't seen gravity, so I'll go gravity. Uh speed or miscongeniality.

SPEAKER_03 2:22:28

I'm gonna go miscongeniality.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:30

I'm gonna go speed. I'm gonna go speed too, even though miscongeniality is pretty good. Alright, let's talk about a few vehicle-based chaos movies. Speed or the fast and the furious. Speed. Speed. Fuck that movie. Speed. All 20 of them? Yeah. The first one wasn't bad. And fucking. Right, right. Speed or Mad Max Fury Road.

SPEAKER_11 2:22:56

I'm gonna go Mad Max.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:58

I'm gonna go Mad Max. I love Mad Max. I've not seen Mad Max, so I'll give it a shot. Oh, it's cool. Uh speed or gone in 60 seconds.

SPEAKER_05 2:23:06

Oh, I'd love it a little more. I'm gonna go in Gone in 60 seconds. So easy for me to say right now.

SPEAKER_06 2:23:15

That IPA has really dried out your tongue. It has.

SPEAKER_12 2:23:20

I think it might pick speed.

SPEAKER_06 2:23:21

Gone in 60 is Nick Cage.

SPEAKER_04 2:23:23

Nick Cage, yeah. When he does that with the city. Yep, the whole dance thing.

SPEAKER_06 2:23:28

Let's go. Let's go. I'll stick with speed.

SPEAKER_04 2:23:32

All right. Just a few with mass transportation gone wrong. Would you rather watch speed or Air Force One? Get off my plane. I know which one you gotta pick. I'm going Air Force One. Air Force One. Speed or Con Air. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. Justin, what'd you pick on the first one? Speed or Air Force One? I'll go Air Force. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:23:51

Yeah. Speed or Con Air. That's another Nick Cage movie, right? It is. Con Air is. Yeah, I'm gonna go Speed. I like Conair.

SPEAKER_11 2:23:59

I'm gonna go Con Air.

SPEAKER_05 2:24:00

He's got a streamy mullet in that. He's got a terrible accent in that movie. Yeah. But still, I'm gonna go Con Air. Just because of John Malkovich. Yeah. John Malkovich is.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:11

You make a compelling argument, but I think I'm gonna stick with Speed. I get it. I get it. Speed or Snowpiercer? Speed. I've never seen Snowpiercer. Snowpiercer is pretty good. I actually picked Snowpiercer. I like it. I've never been like motivated to watch it. What is it? It's a post-apocalyptic movie where basically all the survivors of a frozen earth are going around the globe on a train. On a train, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:24:36

I give it a shot.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:37

Why not?

SPEAKER_06 2:24:38

Why not?

SPEAKER_04 2:24:39

I've already seen speed. It's 80s Steven Spielberg. Oh, fuck that, man.

SPEAKER_09 2:24:44

Don't that's not true.

SPEAKER_12 2:24:46

It is not. It is not. You're just you're just tainting the well. Burn it to the ground.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:54

Alright, last one. Speed versus the taking of Pelham 123. I don't know if you know what that is. I'm gonna go with Pelum. It's about a train abduction. Or a train hijacking.

SPEAKER_06 2:25:09

Nope. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 2:25:11

I mean, it doesn't excite me because it's just a train. It's on one track. Whoop-de-doo. I'm gonna go with speed. Okay, how about this one? How about speed or blue streak? Which one's speed streak? Blue streak has uh Richard Pryor. I don't even know if I'm speaking correctly at this point.

SPEAKER_05 2:25:27

Has Richard Pryor and uh uh the guy who was when the originally uh Willy Wonka. Gene Wilder? Yeah, Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor.

SPEAKER_04 2:25:36

Blue Streaker had a lot of stuff. Speed.

SPEAKER_06 2:25:38

I've never seen Blue Streak, but speed blue streak's amazing. Alright.

SPEAKER_04 2:25:42

Okay. Alright. Well, now that we've talked about our our poison, then we've picked it. We gotta pick something else. What is it?

SPEAKER_03 2:25:51

Let's pick our buttiker.

SPEAKER_04 2:25:57

You are under arrest.

SPEAKER_00 2:25:59

You have the right to remain silent. Fuck you. Guns, guns, guns, it's time to choose. Who stole the seed and lit the fuse? Fat, bold, or just a raised the buttiker or brings the face. Can you fly Bobby? Not quite, but a winner. Pure dynamite.

SPEAKER_04 2:26:29

Well, if you're new to the show, each episode we choose one and only one worthy recipient to receive this prestigious recognition in honor of one of our favorite cinematic characters, Clarence Bodaker from Robocop. It's not an award for the best actor, whoever was on screen the most, but the character who we think brought the most to the movie. With that in mind, Brian, who is your choice for this episode's Bodaker Award? My Bodaker Award winner for this movie of speed is Annie Porter.

SPEAKER_05 2:27:08

Ooh. I think she brought a human element into a movie that was actually fairly devoid of human emotion. She had a definitive arc. She's cute as a button.

SPEAKER_04 2:27:20

And Annie Wildcat Porter is my vote for the bodicer. Hey, real quick. Why do we say cute is a button? Is a button-any button's really that cute. I bet there's been some cute buttons. Probably some. But is it some reason enough to make it a phrase? I guess it had. Maybe it's just the abundance of beer talking, but I think that's a dumb thing to say. Annie Porter's my bodiker.

SPEAKER_05 2:27:49

She's cute as a cutie. I don't disagree.

SPEAKER_06 2:27:53

Don't disagree one bit. Justin. Justin, who's your vote for the bodiker? So Annie was pfft my runner-up. Oh yeah? Yep. Uh-huh. I went with Howard Payne. Calm, smug, theatrical, and always one step ahead. The fact that he's X-Bomb Squad makes it personal. He's not just evil, he's professionally offended. Every lion feels like he's enjoying the game just as much as the money.

SPEAKER_05 2:28:23

Needs more backstory.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:26

Alright. Seth, what say you? I'm willing to agree that Howard could benefit from more backstory. But even with the backstory we did have, I'm still picking him him as my Bottiker award. Losers. Because I find him to be calm, creepy, and clearly enjoying himself way too much. Hell yeah. He delivers every line like he's auditioning for most unsettling man alive, and he turns a simple premise into something personal. And I love that he steals every scene that he's in. The subway scene, though, did him goddamn dirty. But overall, he brought true meaning to the concept crazy, not stupid. And I enjoyed that. What he brought, I found to be understandable. I found to be enjoyable. I found to be goddamn twisted. And in a movie that is just non-stop go, the mo he didn't have to explain the goddamn thing, and I was good with that. Yeah. But I'm taller. And so with that, it might not be unanimous, but Howard Payne is the recipient of this episode's Bonniker Award.

SPEAKER_00 2:29:50

Woo! Bitches leave.

SPEAKER_03 2:29:53

It's been a long time since I've been on the winning side of the Boniker.

SPEAKER_04 2:29:58

Well, now that we've picked our favorite character, what do you guys say we take a moment? And pick our favorite beer.

SPEAKER_11 2:30:05

Beer time!

SPEAKER_04 2:30:07

Brian! Yes. What was your favorite beer episode?

SPEAKER_05 2:30:12

So I'm going to exclude the special carbom beer. Oh, we're gonna exclude that? Or do we want to keep it in there?

SPEAKER_04 2:30:20

Uh I'll leave it up to you.

SPEAKER_05 2:30:24

If we include the car bomb, that was my absolute favorite. Okay. It was fun, it was different, it was smooth, it was awesome. My second, I'm gonna go with the Aylesmith Speedway Stout. It was a little That's a little surprising to me. It's a little hot alcohol-wise, but I love the coffee and the chocolate notes. Third, I will go with a 420. And in my fourth place, I've got the desiccating West Coast ghost that just punched my palate and didn't stop. That's what I got.

SPEAKER_04 2:31:04

Alright, Justin, how do you find him?

SPEAKER_06 2:31:07

So I am uh fourth place for me is the speed waste out. I couldn't even like it's still sitting there. I couldn't finish it. Yours is? Yeah. I know that you were supposed to drink. Seth and I finished ours. I know. Yeah. I don't want it. It's fine. I don't feel bad about it. Number three is the 420. I liked it. It was a little thin. Number two is the Irish Carbomb. That was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03 2:31:34

It was fun.

SPEAKER_06 2:31:35

The West Ghost is my number one.

SPEAKER_04 2:31:37

I can see that. That's you. That's me. Alright. Oh man, this is gonna be I'm gonna have to actually do math tonight, which really fucking sucks. Alright, for me, the Irish car bomb is actually number four. The 420 is number three. We were all consistent on that one.

SPEAKER_12 2:31:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 2:31:57

Yeah?

SPEAKER_04 2:31:58

Yeah. Uh I'm gonna say the Speedway is number two, then I'm gonna go with West Coast Ghosts as number one.

SPEAKER_05 2:32:05

Oh, you guys, you guys have poor taste.

SPEAKER_04 2:32:08

We like what we like. We have a refined palette, Brian. You have an advanced palette. My palette? My palette is just retarded.

SPEAKER_05 2:32:17

I can't say that word. Oh, gosh. My palate is behind the times.

SPEAKER_04 2:32:22

So based on those scores. You didn't like the car bomb, Seth. I thought it was fine. Yeah. It was much more drinkable than what I thought it would be. Uh-huh. But I I didn't enjoy as much as I enjoyed the other beers. Okay. I'm just a beer guy. And and having the other stuff mixed in.

unknown 2:32:44

Eh.

SPEAKER_04 2:32:45

It's non-traditional, I get it. It's not that it's non-traditional. It's just not I didn't I didn't like it as much. It's a it's a bit shticky. And part of it, I think, is also the fact I had to chug it. Whereas these other beers, I've enjoyed it at my own pace. I I get that. And I will say the carbon was much more chuggable than what I thought it would be. But I also think that's a bit of a red flag. So if you had to chug one of these four, which one would you chug? I I I think the 420 would be the one I could probably actually chug the most. Yeah. But I don't think I'd want to because I'd be burping non-stop. Right.

SPEAKER_06 2:33:23

It'd be a lot of burps.

SPEAKER_04 2:33:24

Anyway, but that that's all all whatever. Um based upon the scores we have. Beer under the bridge. Our best beer of the night, whether Brian agrees or not, is the West Ghost IPA. Oh, yay, Justin.

SPEAKER_06 2:33:42

Congratulations, Justin. That's two in a row. That's two in a row. That's two in a row, babies. Hell yeah. I brought two and I still couldn't crack it. Hey, you were my number two. Well, hey, thank you. I'm your number two. Number two and three.

SPEAKER_11 2:34:00

I'm your number two.

SPEAKER_06 2:34:00

That's kind of shitty. No. Compared to me, you're my number two. So next to me, you're my number one.

SPEAKER_04 2:34:09

Now that we've wrapped up our beer talk, what do you guys say we switch gears into some final thoughts? Okay. Who wants to kick it off? You know what? I'm gonna kick it off. Yeah, I said you kick it off. You never kick it off. I never kick it off, and I'm gonna kick it off. Do it to it. And I'm just gonna say, damn, what a ride! Woo! One of the biggest things I judge a movie on is how long it feels and speed. Damn, it flies, it's fast, it's edgy. And the few moments where you can finally lean back and breathe and actually scoot away from the edge of the seat, and you suddenly look up at the clock and you're like, holy shit, how did that much time fly by? It flies, it moves so much quicker than what you think it does. This movie is a full-on roller coaster. The practical effects, the camera work, the sound design, it all locks together into one relentless high octane assault on the senses that does not let go until it does. The acting, it's hit and miss. Nobody's delivering Shakespeare. But honestly, with a premise this simple, they don't have to. There's no extra fat, no unnecessary complexity, it's just pure sustained tension. And that tension works. That anticipation works. Now, the love story, I think it's doing a little bit more heavy lifting than what it really deserves. It feels more like, hey, we survived together. I guess we're in love now. Let's prove it with sex. But quite frankly, I don't give a shit. Because the overall arc of this movie was so simple. It was so effective. And it was one hell of a ride. And while it was already quite the ride, I think that ride would be even better with three more beers. So I'm gonna give this a peak beer score of three.

SPEAKER_11 2:36:23

Okay, okay. Not too bad.

SPEAKER_04 2:36:26

Alright. Justin, what say you?

SPEAKER_06 2:36:28

I'm gonna jump on in. Do it. So I genuinely enjoyed my rewatch of Speed. Alright.

SPEAKER_03 2:36:35

I feel like it's a classic action film. It's exciting, it's suspenseful, humorous, and dramatic all at the same time.

SPEAKER_06 2:36:43

The storyline is over the top, and the dialogue isn't particularly deep or insightful, but that feels like part of the action movie formula rather than a flaw. I like Keanu Reeves a lot, but he's not a strong actor on his own. The saving grace here is that he is surrounded by strong performers, which helps balance and smooth out his limitations.

SPEAKER_03 2:37:07

The cinematography is solid, with some interesting shot choices that really enhance the tension, and the score also does a great job of building suspense and amplifying the stakes throughout. Overall, I think speed holds up really well as an action movie.

SPEAKER_06 2:37:23

I'd watch it again, and I could watch it again sober. But I'd prefer to have two beers just to enhance the experience. Very good. Two beer. Two beer.

SPEAKER_04 2:37:36

What a change from our last movie.

SPEAKER_03 2:37:38

Right? Big time. Twelve to two. I need ten less beers.

SPEAKER_05 2:37:44

Wow. For speed. Alright, so for me. At the end of the day, Speed is a movie built on one simple idea done fairly well. Don't stop moving. And holy cow, this movie does not stop moving. It's not trying to be the most realistic action film or the deepest character study. Instead, it commits fully to momentum. Constant pressure, rising stakes, and a premise that never lets the audience settle. I never felt comfortable watching this movie. It was go go go. What makes it work is how efficiently everything is done, the characters are clear, the setup's immediate, and once the bus starts moving, the film never really lets go. It's pure forward motion from the start, plus it's kind of unten unintentionally funny. It it has its flaws. I mean, the logic is paper thin, simple motivations, and there's a heavy reliance on movie physics. Doesn't really matter when you're watching it, but the experience is the point. For me, it feels like a great ride that doesn't leave much behind once the engine shuts off.

SPEAKER_04 2:38:53

Nice. Now, I think this movie would be an absolute riot if I was four beers in.

SPEAKER_17 2:39:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 2:39:01

Yeah. Two, three, four. Mm-hmm. Two, three, four. Two three four. Ooh, boy, the mask's gonna be hard there. It's a solid three beers.

SPEAKER_11 2:39:09

That's right! Hey, wait a math.

SPEAKER_04 2:39:11

If slide man knows how to mask, then it's pretty easy to math. Yeah, that gives us an average of three. This was a fun watch. I really enjoyed re-watching this. It was great. I had a good time with it. Good choice, Seth. Yeah, I mean, it was we we had a string of comedies. I felt like it was time to break it up a little bit with something a little bit more action-y. Heck yeah. And just so everyone knows, yeah, so that gives us an average score of three beers to reach peak viewing pleasure. Where does that put it? That puts it in uh third place overall amongst the movies we've watched. Uh a third of a beer below Parenthood and a third of a beer ahead of Romancing the Stone. Okay. Not bad. That's a good spot for it. Not bad at all. But now that we we've covered all that, what do you guys say theoretically? Now I know they made a sequel to speed. But they didn't make my sequel. They didn't make our sequel. So let's say Yon debont gave us a call and said, hey, hey, regular guys, I want to make a good sequel to speed. What do you guys think it should be?

SPEAKER_06 2:40:32

You know what I would do?

SPEAKER_04 2:40:34

Well, you tell us, because you had the best beer of the night. I would say this brainstorm off. I'd say Yon debont.

SPEAKER_03 2:40:41

You confection. I have a wonderful idea for you. Alright.

SPEAKER_06 2:40:48

This time, it's not just a bus with a bomb.

SPEAKER_11 2:40:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:40:54

Every vehicle in the entire city has a bomb that blows up when the vehicle goes under 50 miles per hour. Oh, that's a lot of bombs. Think of the absolute chaos.

SPEAKER_03 2:41:10

Go from there.

SPEAKER_05 2:41:11

Oh boy. Go from there. You know, I think the sequel needs to s I think you're on the right track in the fact that I think the sequel needs to stay away from cruise ships.

SPEAKER_04 2:41:23

I want every every car to have a bomb. Seth, where are you going with this? I don't want to. I want to go. So cruise ships are really big. Yeah. I want to go something really small. Okay. I want to go to a golf club. A golf course. I want to say every one of the golf carts have a bomb on them. Alright. And once they go five miles per hour. That's right. It engages. And if you go lower than that, your golf cart will explode.

SPEAKER_06 2:41:55

This is anticomagic. I think I just jump off into a barrel roll. You could probably just run off. Heck yeah. Just get your legs going.

SPEAKER_04 2:42:09

It still would be better than cruise uh cruise control. Speed too. Speed two. Oh boy, what would I do? I don't know. Those are great ideas.

SPEAKER_05 2:42:21

Now, if you had multiple cars.

SPEAKER_04 2:42:24

Maybe it's a razor scooter with a bottle.

SPEAKER_05 2:42:26

What about those e-bikes?

SPEAKER_03 2:42:28

There you go. Like all the downtown ones that you could rent? Yeah, those bird scooters and bird bikes.

SPEAKER_11 2:42:34

But you know what? All I would do is decrease the homeless population.

SPEAKER_04 2:42:38

Oh no! Homeless population's using the I went there. Yeah, I don't think that's accurate. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:42:50

I I don't know. I I think we take it to the air and we go on an airplane. Okay. Snakes.

SPEAKER_04 2:42:55

That's probably the best plane we've actually had. I think we go on an airplane and so it's bombs on a plane instead of snakes on a plane? Uh-huh. Bombs on a plane. All these motherfucking bombs and all these motherfucking planes. Motherfuckers. But it does not star Samuel L. Jackson. Okay, who's a star?

SPEAKER_11 2:43:12

Well, we bring Sandra Bullock back. Ooh, and Keanu Reeves. Maybe they're coming back from their honeymoon. Ooh. Yeah. And there's a bomb on the plane.

SPEAKER_05 2:43:22

Okay. Uh, and if the plane descends under a certain altitude, it'll blow up.

SPEAKER_03 2:43:31

That's problematic, because it can't land. Right. What's the what's the guy's name? Payne? Dennis Hopper? Are you saying that he never actually died? Like his head didn't get taken off? No, it's somebody, it's somebody different. It's somebody new.

SPEAKER_04 2:43:45

It could be you could do like the diehard sequels, and it's either a brother or a son.

SPEAKER_05 2:43:51

Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 2:43:52

It's his wife. Oh! Yeah. She is scorned.

SPEAKER_05 2:43:57

She is so pissed off that he lost that extra finger. Because that was the that was the magic finger. That was the magic finger.

SPEAKER_04 2:44:05

So she's a woman scorned. Oh. So why is she scorned at Jack then? Wouldn't she be scorned at the Atlanta PD that where he lost the finger? I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 2:44:15

I mean, he also took his head off, so he died.

SPEAKER_04 2:44:18

Yeah. I mean, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 2:44:19

She was supposed to get the 3.7 million.

SPEAKER_04 2:44:21

Oh, yeah. I mean, and honestly, him being decapitated kind of put a damper on the mood. Yeah. I mean, literally no more head.

SPEAKER_09 2:44:30

I mean, she might be happy about that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:44:33

She's feeling she's feeling a little she's feeling a little put out about the whole thing. Finally, no more head. And so now they have to find a way to get Jack off the plane. I got this far, but I couldn't get to the end.

SPEAKER_05 2:44:52

That was a kudos to you for making it this far before the old Jack Off comment. It's amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:44:59

Uh so yeah, so they have to get off the plane.

SPEAKER_03 2:45:03

Get the plane off. They gotta get off. They gotta get off. You better find a way to get off. Mile High Club. It's the only way.

SPEAKER_05 2:45:14

Why does every sequel ever always devolve into either a horror movie or a porno? Because we're guys. That's what we like. Because that's that's who we are. We're just three dudes. Sitting around thinking about sorry, and sex. Hey, sorry, mom. I know you're listening to the show. It's their fault. You know? That's probably true. I'm still an angel. It's our fault.

SPEAKER_04 2:45:43

Well, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure we have reached the point of peak devolvement. I think we've also reached the point of mere saturation. Absolutely. And so I think, and I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. That's gonna do it for this episode of the regular guy movie show. We survived a city bus that refused to slow down, a bomber with way too much time and way too many explosives, a freeway jump that laughed in the face of physics, and a morning commute that turned into a full-blown life or death situation. If you enjoyed hanging out with us, though God knows why, make sure to follow, subscribe, leave a review, or just start yelling, pop quiz hot shot at random people in traffic and see who gets the reference. Eventually, someone might actually know what you're talking about. If you want to keep the conversation going, hit us up on the socials and tell us what you thought about speed. Does it hold up for you? Does the tension still hit like it should? And most importantly, who is your boniker winner? Thanks for listening, thanks for drinking along with us, and until next time, be kind, rewind.

SPEAKER_01 2:47:00

The regular guy, movie show, talking flicks. Here we go.

SPEAKER_05 2:47:16

I have a question for you guys. What? Yeah, do tell. How often do you speed when you drive?

SPEAKER_03 2:47:23

All the time. I know me too. Like every time I get in the car.

SPEAKER_05 2:47:26

Right. Yeah. I don't think Okay, so I have a little thing in my my dashboard, my car. And it's the speed limit of where I you know of where I am.

SPEAKER_11 2:47:36

And it turns red if you're over the speed limit. I'm afraid I'm gonna burn out the red light. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 2:47:44

Inter Interstate 65, I go 72. You know? I mean, I've heard eight you're great, nine you're mine. Yeah, so I keep it at seven.

SPEAKER_11 2:47:55

But holy cow.

SPEAKER_06 2:47:57

I don't I don't think I've ever not sped. Like roads that are 25 miles per hour are bullshit. Like who's doing that? You can't even put your foot on the pedal. I mean shit, I can run that fast. Can you?

SPEAKER_04 2:48:11

I mean, maybe not. We can go out to the street right now and time that. I don't think that's true. I can run 15 to 20.

SPEAKER_17 2:48:20

15?

SPEAKER_04 2:48:21

Are you a gazelle? You can run a three-minute mile? Are you a gazelle and a brilliant mile? Do you run a four-minute mile? We're talking for a block.

SPEAKER_06 2:48:28

I don't have the staying power. You're a you're a a gazelle. Is a gazelle fast? Again, a gazelle is pretty fast. They're known for their brevity. So that's a gazelle and a Brian suit.

SPEAKER_04 2:48:42

I mean, I can tell I I can run 15 miles an hour. Easy.

SPEAKER_06 2:48:45

No way. All right.

SPEAKER_04 2:48:47

I've got a speed gun. Alright. The next time we hang out, I'm gonna speed you. Speed time you. Okay. Is that correct? He's gonna speed you, Brian. God, the beers are really making my brain and mouth not work the way I want them to.

SPEAKER_06 2:49:03

I get it. I'm gonna videotape it.

SPEAKER_04 2:49:05

I will radar you for a short span of distance. And I'll take the over of 15 miles an hour. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:49:15

No doubt.

SPEAKER_04 2:49:16

No kidding. Yeah, no kidding. I'm writing it down. 15 mile per hour, Brian. And the thing is, I'm gonna totally forget what this note means. He wants the over.

SPEAKER_05 2:49:27

Why don't you just drive your car up my down my street at 15 miles an hour and I'll see if I can pace you.

SPEAKER_04 2:49:33

How about I just follow behind you at 15 miles per hour and if you can't do it? I'll just run you over. If you can't, then I'll be like the lady who fell out of the bus and got ran over.

SPEAKER_03 2:49:42

Fuck you, Mrs. Farmer. If you don't get hit, you know you're going faster.

SPEAKER_11 2:49:47

But you know, I gotta say, bottom line, I think speed limits are kind of bullshit. Speed limits are bullshit. Yeah. Nobody abides by them. I should go as fast as I want. I mean, not really.

SPEAKER_06 2:49:59

Like, I don't I think if I say I want to go as fast as I want, it's not gonna be like a hundred. That's scary.

SPEAKER_05 2:50:06

You you'll go as fast as the situation is appropriate. Like a hundred is scary. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:50:12

Like I'll go like in a 50, like okay, 65 on the on the highway. I'll go 75. Yeah, why not? That's comfy. Yeah. Don't pull me over for that.

SPEAKER_05 2:50:21

Okay, so when I lived in Germany, we're in the Autobahn. Oh we had a Ford tempo. Okay. Was one of our cars. And my mom was driving. And she wanted to know what the speedometer did once it got all the way around. So she opened that thing up and you know, and and I was like, she told my dad, she goes, hey, yeah, um, when the speedometer gets to the end, it just kind of bounces around. It doesn't go all the way back to zero, it just kind of goes to the end and just bounces. And he's like, What?

SPEAKER_04 2:50:56

She was like, never mind. Don't mind me. That was probably about 85 miles an hour, yeah. Yeah, uh-huh. Easy. It's probably about for that captana. I don't know. Totally off topic, but I loved that old 1980 style tempo. Oh, that was great. Yeah. We had uh we had the sports version.

SPEAKER_05 2:51:14

Yeah. So it had like the bright colored trim on it, and it had the bigger gas tank.

SPEAKER_11 2:51:21

So I could fill that thing up and I could drive for 600 miles on that.

SPEAKER_05 2:51:24

Yeah, boy, there I am. It was a manual. That's the way to roll. That is, it was great. Yeah. Love we called it the bean. It looked like a jelly bean. Love the bean.

SPEAKER_04 2:51:37

Yeah. GG. Oh my god. Got to like that bean. Yeah. Every time you walk by, you just look at it a little bit. Just look at it. Right? That's how I got so good at it. Alright, I think we're done. I need appies and nappies.

SPEAKER_03 2:51:51

Alright. Peace. Bye-bye. Laters.