Episode 24: Twins

On this episode of The Regular Guy Movie Show, we’re diving into one of the most baffling comedies of the 80s… Twins.

Somewhere in a top-secret lab, scientists attempted to engineer the perfect human being… and somehow ended up with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito as twins. One got all the good traits. The other got… everything else.

We break down Arnold’s surprisingly strong comedic debut, DeVito absolutely stealing the show, and whether the movie around them actually holds up. Along the way, we question the plot, shrug at the romance, and try to figure out what movie the villain thinks he’s in.

Does Twins hold up? Or is this one best enjoyed a few beers deep?

In This Episode:

• Arnold Schwarzenegger’s first real swing at comedy
• Danny DeVito doing Danny DeVito things (and carrying the movie)
• A plot that… technically exists
• The most unnecessary villain in 80s comedy history
• Mind the Gap: our new height-based game segment
• Final verdict: does it hold up?

Beer Talk:
What we’re drinking during the episode

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Transcript

SPEAKER_12 0:00

In the quiet halls of a top secret genetics laboratory, great men once asked a very important scientific question. What if we combine the DNA of six brilliant, accomplished fathers to create the perfect human being? What if that child possessed unmatched intelligence, peak physical condition, moral purity, and the emotional maturity of a golden doodle who just discovered hugs? And what if, as a side effect, we also got Danny DeVito. This is Twins, the film that dare to wonder, can Conan the Barbarian be funny? It's a story about nature versus nurture, about street smarts versus book smarts. It's a tale of family, identity, and one ethically questionable milkshake. We'll get into it on this episode of the Regular Guy Movie Show.

SPEAKER_07 1:02

Lights go down! Let's display! Regular guy's got something to say! The Regular Guy Movie Show talking.

SPEAKER_12 1:17

Welcome back to the Regular Guy Movie Show, where three grown-ass men revisit the movies that shaped our youth, distorted our expectations of adulthood, and occasionally convince us that long-lost siblings might just show up someday, who happen to be built like a refrigerator. I'm Seth, and representing the full range of human genetics, the who is on which end is yet to be determined, are my two co-hosts, Justin and Brian. Gentlemen, are you ready to combine our genetic material, throw it into the oven, and see what pops out? You guys got all the good genes. What did I get?

SPEAKER_10 1:54

And I just want to say, tonight is your night, bro. Tonight is your night, bro.

SPEAKER_12 1:59

Well, before we start tracking down our six biological fathers, let's take a moment and talk about what we're drinking tonight. Justin! We're starting things off with your beer for the podcast.

SPEAKER_14 2:15

You tell us all about it. Yeah, we sure did. Uh, this is this is my beer. This is the silver bullet. Corse light. Drinking on a budget tonight? And I picked this one because Vincent was drinking Corse Light during the microwave eggplant parmesan scene, and I thought it was it was suiting.

SPEAKER_12 2:37

The nuke food. Yeah, the nuke food. I mean, I'm a big fan of pairing my food with my beer, and if I'm talking about pairing nuked eggplant parmesan, the silver bullet's a pretty damn good pairing.

SPEAKER_14 2:51

I mean, if you're nuking your eggplant parmesan, then yes, this fits very nicely.

SPEAKER_10 2:56

You know, I I have to say, it has been a minute since I've had a cold, hurt your hand, cold course light. Uh-huh. Probably since the camping trip. Yeah. It has its place. It does.

SPEAKER_14 3:10

Yeah. I mean, it's coors light. It's fun. It's a good beer. It is. It goes down, it's cold, it's refreshing. I don't expect to win tonight's beer challenge. Yeah, but it's a fun beer to drink. It's a it's it's a safe beer.

SPEAKER_12 3:22

It's not a big beer. It's a safe beer. And you know, we've always, as long as we've been talking about craft beer over the years, we've never really been beer snobs. No, heck no. I remember there was one night when we were brewing beer. I don't even remember what it was we were brewing, but but we we were big on the Twitter sphere back then, and we'd share photos of our brewing process. And there was one night while we were brewing, we were enjoying some Coors Light, and we got so much shit. Oh, yeah, we got people who saw our photos.

SPEAKER_14 3:53

We got smoked because we had Coors Light in the pictures, and we were craft beer brewers. And people were dare you! Just so offended by it. You know, you know why we do that?

SPEAKER_10 4:06

Because we are regular guys. We are regular guys. We're not beer snobs. We're not above a coor's light. Oh, hell no. It's part of our fabric.

SPEAKER_14 4:15

I mean, it's great in the summertime. Oh, when we go disc golfing and we take a cool for that. It's it's great for camping. It's great to you can put a bottle of it in a bonfire and explode it and not feel bad that it does have wasted like four years, you know.

SPEAKER_10 4:29

Like I said, there is a place for a cold course light. Right. I'm not I'm not upset at all with your choice.

SPEAKER_12 4:35

I'm not complaining one bit.

SPEAKER_10 4:36

And I gotta say, it's going down awfully quick. Oh, yeah, that's why I brought the whole six pack in. Nice.

SPEAKER_12 4:43

Well, guys, we're talking about the movie Twins. Yep. What uh when did you watch Twins for the first time?

SPEAKER_10 4:51

Brian, I'm gonna let you go first. All right. I I know exactly when I watched Twins for the first time. Do tell. Uh in the movie theater. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. I was um my my father, our family were stationed overseas, and uh, we had one TV channel to watch, you know, on the Armed Forces Network. So there was not a whole lot to do in the evenings. So we had a um a movie theater on base, and we went a lot.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 5:15

Yeah. And uh when twins came out, you know, everybody wanted to see an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. So yeah, so I saw this with the family in the movie theater.

SPEAKER_12 5:24

We did not see in the movie theater, but did see it on VHS not long after it came out on a rental because my parents were not Arnold Schwarzenegger fans at all, but they were Danny DeVito fans. Oh they were big fans of Taxi, and uh so yeah, so they rented it. Uh and that though, I think is the only time prior to this week I have watched this movie. Really? Yeah. I somehow and I'm sure it's been on cable and different things. I have glossed over it though for decades since that first viewing.

SPEAKER_10 5:56

You know, I I hadn't watched it in a long, long, long, long time either. Uh that's why I kind of picked it because I wanted to go through the the nostalgia factor and see if it held up, you know, from what I remembered.

SPEAKER_14 6:08

All right. Yeah. So I feel like we're kind of back at our roots of this show. Oh, yeah? Because I watched this movie for the first time yesterday. Fresh eyeballs. Now, I thought that I knew a bit about the movie, but quickly found out that I didn't because I still hung on to the fact how the hell could these guys be twins? Come on, give me a break. You know what I mean? That's like that's whenever I heard about this movie, I'm like, yeah, they're not twins. Come on. Like, this is gotta like I don't know what's going on, but it's gotta be something. Right? But yeah. Yeah. Watched it yesterday. Spoiler alert, they're actually twins. They are. Yeah, it's crazy. Not identical twins. No. What?

SPEAKER_12 6:53

All right. Well, for uh anyone who hasn't seen this movie before, it's time for story time with Brian.

SPEAKER_05 7:00

Brian, tell us a story.

SPEAKER_10 7:04

You got it. You got it, creepy kids. Alright, Twins came out in 1988. Rated PG. Twins tells the story of Julius, a man raised in isolation, who's lived his whole life believing he was alone. But one day, he discovers that he has a brother named Vincent, a scrappy hustler who has navigated life on the streets with wit, charm, and a healthy dose of trouble. Thrown together by chance and curiosity, these two unlikely siblings set out to find their mother and uncover the truth about their origins. Along the way, their differences lead to chaos, comedy, and unforgettable misadventures. Yet, beneath the laughs, a touching story emerges. Two men, so different yet so connected, learning that family isn't about being the same, it's about showing up for each other in all your imperfect glory. That's so sweet. Sleep tight.

SPEAKER_14 8:16

Thanks, Uncle Brian.

SPEAKER_10 8:18

And how did this movie do in the box office? Alright, so the budget was around$18 million. Uh, the domestic gross in the US was about$112 million, and worldwide it grossed around$216 million. Holy cow. So that's a huge return on investment for the time. More than 10 times its budget worldwide. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_12 8:39

Fun fact about that$18 million that it took to make it. Uh-huh. Do you know where a lot of that money wasn't spent? I do. Oh, you don't know. This is great. So the studio wasn't sure the audiences would buy Arnold Schwarzenegger in a comedy. So instead of big salaries, Arnold, Danny DeVito, and the director took no money up front. No way. Gotten paid entirely on the percentage of profits.

SPEAKER_14 9:08

That is crazy. What an amazing deal for them.

SPEAKER_10 9:10

Okay. And Arnold Schwarzenegger will tell you. This is his highest grossing movie. He was paid more for this movie than any other movie he's ever done.

SPEAKER_12 9:23

He reportedly made over 40 million dollars from this movie alone. Oh my God.

SPEAKER_14 9:28

In 1988. That is amazing. It is amazing. That's a smart way to go. I tell you, that's that's betting on yourself. Right.

SPEAKER_10 9:36

And winning huge time.

SPEAKER_12 9:39

Because Twins was the fifth highest grossing movie worldwide of 1988. Any guesses?

SPEAKER_14 9:51

What else was on the list? Well, in 1988 I was six. Okay, so what movies came out when you were six? I have no idea. Rad was not one. Rad is not in the top ten. But I was still watching it.

SPEAKER_10 10:06

Let me take a couple stabs. Okay. Paris Bueler's Day Off? No, I don't think that was 88. Okay. Um, I'm trying to think what else came out then. Ghostbusters? No, not unlisted. I don't even know if that was 88. I give. I don't know. Terrible.

SPEAKER_12 10:36

Rain Man was number one at 354 million. Okay. Okay. Who framed Roger Rabbit brought in 330 million.

unknown 10:45

Wow.

SPEAKER_12 10:46

Coming to America, 289 million. That's a good movie. Thy Royal Penis is clean, sire. And in fourth.

SPEAKER_09 10:53

Crocodile Dundee 2.

SPEAKER_14 10:56

Oh, that's a new one.

SPEAKER_12 10:57

$239 million.

SPEAKER_14 11:00

The sequel made$239.

SPEAKER_12 11:01

Holy cow. Now here's something else that's just fun from that year. There was another movie, much beloved, that came out that same year that didn't even come close. Oh yeah? Some might call it the greatest Christmas movie ever made. Oh, is it a Christmas story? Is it diehard? It's diehard. Only made$141 million. Wow. Not bad for a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_10 11:28

I'll tie on that hill. Right.

SPEAKER_12 11:32

So but as far as Arnold Schwarzenegger's top grossing movies, now, while this may have made him the most money, it wasn't the highest grossing. It was actually the seventh highest grossing movie. Can you think of any that did better? Terminator. One and two. Two, yes. Not one. Not one? Okay. Total recall. Total recall is fifth. 261 million. Predator. Predator is not in the top. Not a bit better than Twins. Kindergarten cop. Kindergarten cop was just below it at eighth. 202 million. Oh wow.

unknown 12:09

Kindergarten cop.

SPEAKER_10 12:11

Let's see. What else? Wouldn't be Commando. Commando, no.

SPEAKER_12 12:18

I will say that another one of his comedic roles ranked higher. Junior? Not junior. Kindergarten cop. I said that. You did. I contributed and you stole. It was with one of our previous previous uh stars we've talked about. One of just its good friends, JLC. Oh yeah. Oh, true lies. True live. Yeah, that's a good one.$378 million. That's the third highest. The other one's on the list. Second place was Terminator 3, Rise of the Machines at$433 million. Jeez. The Expendables was at fourth. I'm sorry. The Expendables 2 was at fourth with$315 million. Total recall of fifth with$261. And Batman and Robin was at sixth place with$238 million worldwide gross.

SPEAKER_14 13:06

I didn't even know he was in Batman and Robin.

SPEAKER_10 13:08

Yeah, he was Mr. Freeze. Mr. Freeze.

SPEAKER_14 13:10

Oh. I like that right at Six Flags.

SPEAKER_10 13:12

And so what was his number one? What was his highest? Terminator 2 Judgment Day. T2.

SPEAKER_12 13:16

$520 million. Wow. Damn good movie, too, though. Yeah, it was a good movie. I thought that kid was a punk. Eddie Furlong. Yeah. Punk is a little media. Danny DeVito. Uh, this movie ranked a little higher on his list at third overall. Uh so any other guesses, what what else may have been some of his top grossing movies? Romancing the Stone. That's his fifth highest at 86 million.

SPEAKER_14 13:47

Uh Batman. Batman Returns was his number one. I think we talked about 266 million last time. And it was like it's not really because of him. Well, he he was in it. He was a pretty prominent role in that.

SPEAKER_12 14:00

But it's the ping one. I know. It's Batman. Uh, and number two was uh Space Jam at 230 million. Ah yeah. Space Jam. Space Jam. Hmm. Space Jam. So while we're uh having some fun with Numbies, Justin, how did people receive this movie?

SPEAKER_14 14:18

Not well. So Rotten Tomatoes has a score of 43% based on 44 reviews from critics, and a very similar popcorn meter of 40% based on over a hundred thousand viewer ratings. So it's a rotten movie.

SPEAKER_10 14:39

Yeah. You know what? That's that's interesting. Uh especially the critics not liking it with it being Arnold's first, uh, I'm gonna say successful comedic role.

SPEAKER_14 14:49

It was really his first foray into comedy. So I did take one of the quotes from it, and I think this'll a little bit of for like a little explain. Yeah, what am I trying to say there?

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 15:01

Uh kind of give you some insight. So uh it said though it offers a few modest pleasures for undemanding viewers, Twins leans too heavily on the wackiness of its premise to overcome its narrative shortcomings. Uh and I think that if you're watching this critically, yeah, it's not gonna rate very high. If you're watching it for the pure entertainment of it, it's probably gonna be higher.

SPEAKER_12 15:27

I mean, to be completely honest, I I think that 90% of the plot you get just from the cover art. Right.

SPEAKER_14 15:36

Yeah, I'd agree with that. If I say that though, if you're watching it just purely for enjoyment, the popcorn meter is kind of weird too, because it's at 40%. Yeah. So you would think just viewers, yeah, casual viewers are gonna watch it for entertainment and not sit there and you know critically watch it.

SPEAKER_10 15:51

Well, I would think I would think that viewers would watch it to be entertained by Arnold being funny. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I was pretty impressed by it. Yeah. I thought I thought the comedic timing and all that was good, and we'll get into that a little bit further. But yeah, I thought it would have done better with the audience because it was outside of his box and it was his first time doing that. I agreed, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 16:09

I mean, the only thing I could I could say is that ultimately the the concept is is decent, but the plot is is thin. Oh, very yeah. But but what's there? I I don't that the the numbers we're hearing honestly surprise me. I would would have thought it would have been higher. Weird. It is weird. We need a new poll. You want to put your poll out there? No. Well, so too much work. The director of this movie was Ivan Reitman. All right. Uh, and by the 70s and 80s, he had already become a pretty reliable director of comedies. And some of the movies he he worked on, either as a producer or director prior to Twins Animal House, Stripes, Ghostbusters, and Legal Eagles.

SPEAKER_13 16:54

Okay, so he made some good stuff.

SPEAKER_12 16:55

Yeah, and it it he had really established himself with you know high concept comedies, uh pairing of different kinds of personalities, and mixing comedy with light action or adventure.

SPEAKER_13 17:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 17:09

And, you know, uh certainly the success of this movie helped him uh further his career because it definitely uh cemented a creative partnership with Arnold Schwarzenegger as they would work together again on kindergarten cop as well as junior. Uh because you know, hey, Arnold Schwarzenegger pregnant. Who wouldn't want to see that? I never saw Junior at any of that.

SPEAKER_11 17:30

I think I saw it one time.

SPEAKER_12 17:32

Yeah. Yeah. But as far as his career, he continued on with with more successful works through the 90s and 2000s, with movies including Dave, uh, as well as Six Days, Seven Nights. Uh, but he passed away in 2022. He did. Yeah. The movie was written by William Davies, uh, screenwriter and producer, has worked on both film and television projects. Uh, a lot of work with big studio comedies, animated films, as well as television writing. Davies wrote the screenplay for twins based on the story concept developed by Reitman. Reitman basically said, It would be really funny if we had twins and one was really tall and one was really small. And then that was that was it. They accepted it because he already had a successful career going, and and like a studio's like, yeah, sounds great, go for it. And they handed off this guy and he he then cranked out the script. Um, and really leaning on the contrast between our two lead characters, the fish out of water, uh, as well as the you know emotional themes of of family reconciliation. Other things he's worked on, other well pro known projects, stop or my mom will shoot, Johnny English, and How to Train Your Dragon.

SPEAKER_14 18:40

Ah, that's a good movie. Oh, that's one of my daughter's favorites. That's a really good one. Have you seen the live action one? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Super good. Is it good? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's great. Really good. We went and saw that in theaters. Uh, me, the wife, and and our her son. Yeah, it was great. And how well was it casted?

SPEAKER_10 18:59

Oh that looked just like the dude from the animated one. Talked like him, acting like it, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 19:04

Yeah, it was great. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_14 19:06

It's a good one. It's amazing what they can do. It is amazing. Well, who's uh in front of the camera? Oh, I have a handful here. Uh first up is Julius Benedict, played by Arnold Schwarzenegger.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

Take out the papers and the trash. Oh, you don't get no spending cash. You don't scrap that kitchen floor. You ain't gonna rock and roar no more. Yuckity yuck.

SPEAKER_14 19:36

Don't talk back. Oh my gosh, he was not a good singer, but that is so fun. Julius is a genetically engineered superhuman raised on a remote island who believes in logic, manners, and the inherent goodness of humanity, which makes him wildly unprepared for meeting his long-lost twin brother and society in general.

SPEAKER_12 19:59

You know, Julius really acts as the moral center of the movie.

SPEAKER_14 20:02

He does.

SPEAKER_12 20:02

Uh, and his journey is really about discovering everything family, the real world, uh, that perfection doesn't necessarily come from genetics. Life, life outside of books, hot dogs, pizza, you know. He's just a big old sweetie.

SPEAKER_10 20:18

Heroes, beer, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 20:20

All the things. Women beah.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 20:27

He I I mean you see him as this giant action star guy, right? And play in this role, I thought like even though the accent is so thick, and he's not that great of an actor, he did such a good job with this role itself.

SPEAKER_12 20:45

This is kind of one of the reasons I I wish we couldn't know when reviews were made. Okay, because I I can imagine if I was in the 1980s and I was so hardwired into Arnold as the action star. Yeah. And suddenly this movie came out that was him as a comedic actor. I could understand how I might not know how to take it. Yeah. But I think we've had enough Arnold comedy. Oh, yeah. At this point, anyone reviewing this movie now, I I would think would be at a different lens.

SPEAKER_10 21:18

Yeah, it shouldn't be shocking. You know, you bring up a good point, because I don't think Rotten Tomatoes was a thing in 1988. No, definitely not. So it was obviously rated much, much later. Um, and I think maybe it got a little slighted because it's an older film. Yeah. You know, the cinematography, the special effects, all that stuff isn't real great. Yeah, the storyline is thin. Um, but yeah, it was not rated at the time because 80s audiences loved it.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 21:43

I mean, obviously. Right. They spent their money on it.

SPEAKER_14 21:46

They sure did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 21:47

This is our first time doing an Arnold Schwarzenegger. It is. Arnie. Welcome to the to the show. Welcome to the show. Other things you might know him from. Uh some of them we've already talked about or mentioned anyway. Conan the Barbarian. The Terminator, Predator, and Commando. And while this was his first foray into comedy, other comedic films would follow, including Kindergarten Cop, True Lies, and Jingle All the Way. Jingle All the Way.

SPEAKER_10 22:16

What was the name of the doll that we're doing before in Jingle All the Way? Oh. Was it like RoboMan or something? Robo? Oh, I don't remember. Turbo Man. TurboBomb. Yeah, it was Turbo Man. I don't think I've ever seen that, to be honest. It's pretty fun. It's got uh what's Sinbad? Yeah, Sinbad's in it. Ah, Sinbad? Yeah. Oh, if he's in it, I'm watching it.

SPEAKER_12 22:33

But you know, overall, I think for his first foray into comedy, he did a really good job.

SPEAKER_10 22:41

Yeah. I agree. He had a lot of help. Yeah. Because being on screen and sharing scenes with a comedic classic actor like the next gentleman we'll talk about, Danny DeVito, I think that helped him along greatly.

SPEAKER_12 22:58

But that also could have made the contrast even starker. Like it really could have made having one person being really funny and the other one maybe not being that good at it. It would have stood out like a sore thumb.

SPEAKER_10 23:11

It could have. But the interplay was great. Solid. And a lot of the interplay between the two was not scripted. It was outlined, but the specifics were not scripted. There was a lot of banter and play between the two. In fact, there are times where I saw one or the other almost break character and start laughing in the movie. And so there were there was a lot of that. And I give a lot of that credit to Danny DeVito for accepting and knowing his role and kind of bringing along Arnold as a comedian.

SPEAKER_14 23:42

You know, I I tend to believe that Arnold Schwarzenegger is not naive and childlike. Right. So whenever he plays this role where he is, he did a good job of it. Like it was a decent acting job.

SPEAKER_10 23:56

You know, I I read I read his biography. And uh when he first came to the United States, there's a lot of parallels here.

SPEAKER_11 24:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 24:05

Um you know, he lifted weights, he was a bodybuilder over in Europe, but he'd never been to a real true bodybuilding gym until he came to the United States. And so there was equipment, there was stuff that he'd never seen before.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 24:19

Um and he got into the United States and the first holiday was Thanksgiving. Okay. He had no idea what Thanksgiving was. And and some guy who he worked out with at the gym invited him over for Thanksgiving. And he was amazed.

SPEAKER_14 24:36

Could you imagine? Right. Never seeing an American Thanksgiving and then going to an American Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_10 24:43

And so all these people in the gym that he worked out with just like any normal Thursday. They they liked him so much. He was such a genuine good dude who didn't know anything. Yeah. Uh, that they they would bring him stuff. And he said his favorite gift that he ever got was somebody brought him a radio alarm clock. And I can only imagine the alarm going off to take out the papers and the trash.

SPEAKER_14 25:07

Yuck the yuck. All right, who else we got? All right. Next up I have Vincent Benedict, played by Danny DeVito.

SPEAKER_05 25:13

Okay, I'll be anything you want. Your aunt, your uncle, your sister, your cousin, your brother-in-law, anything, all right?

SPEAKER_14 25:20

Vincent is a fast talking small-time hustler who owes money to half the criminals on the West Coast and suddenly learns his long-lost twin is a 6'2 Austrian super genius who thinks everything can be solved with kindness. Vincent is the complete opposite of Julius in so many ways.

SPEAKER_12 25:39

Big time. Yeah. Polar opposites. You know, even how they're brought up. Yeah. Really, every possible way, both the nature and the nurture are so different. And that relationship, honestly, what I find to be the most entertaining, or one of the more entertaining parts of the movie, is how quickly it actually forms. You know, the the you see Vincent start off very jaded, very rigid, very guarded. But he lowers his barrier and lets Julius in pretty quickly.

SPEAKER_14 26:19

Do you think that was genuine though? Because I think in the beginning he was just like, oh, I'm gonna take him for everything. Oh, definitely.

SPEAKER_12 26:25

I'm gonna I'm gonna this guy is a dope and I'm gonna use him. But I think when we get to to it, uh we'll talk about it. When we get to the Parmesan scene, yeah, I think we already start to see the softening.

SPEAKER_10 26:40

Okay. Alright. We see a couple things then, and like you said, we'll get to it. We see the softening, we see them acting similar. Uh-huh. And uh you know, I think that switch happened when I think Vincent let Julius into his life after he beat the crap out of that guy. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, oh man, okay, he's got my back. Yeah, he does. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 27:05

Anyways. The relationship between the two is is the emotional core of the movie. And Vincent, despite his smaller stature, more than holds his weight in that relationship.

SPEAKER_10 27:22

Oh yeah, yeah. He's he's pretty much the lead for much of the movie in that relationship.

SPEAKER_14 27:27

And Danny DeVito is just fantastic. Yeah. Like always in everything. You know, he's just a ton of fun.

SPEAKER_12 27:36

And I think it speaks volumes though to his professionalism. The fact that we do have a what was essentially is a novice to comedy, yeah, working side by side with a legend in comedy, and it never feels like there's a disparity. Right.

SPEAKER_14 27:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 27:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 27:55

I I give Danny a lot of credit for that.

SPEAKER_14 27:57

They're probably just a couple of good dudes just hanging out and having fun. Man, wouldn't they be fun to just have a beer with? They would be. Yeah. I would like to have a beer with that. You know, we should get him on the show. We should. You know, I'll make oh. It'd be a good time.

SPEAKER_12 28:07

It would be. So and this is our second time talking about Danny DeVito. It is. Yeah. He was also in Romancing the Stone, um, as well as you know, Throw Mama from the Train. Uh, he would go on to be in movies like The War of the Roses, Batman Returns, Get Shorty, and uh Death of Smoochie. Was he Shorty in Get Shorty? Well, I think you're just making height jokes. I am. But may have been. I actually don't know.

SPEAKER_10 28:35

I also uh it's always sunny in Philadelphia.

SPEAKER_12 28:38

Uh love him in that. Yeah. My favorite my favorite DeVito. Yeah? Yep.

SPEAKER_10 28:43

Oh, he's so good in that. And he was in uh one flew over the cuckoo's nest, I think. That was a long time ago. 1975? Dang. I'm gonna fact check that, maybe.

SPEAKER_14 28:58

Maybe, maybe not, I don't know. Uh, but yeah, done some stuff. Heck yeah, he did it. Yeah. Who else we got? Alright, I got Linda Mason, played by Chloe Webb.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

Your judgment is at its peak today. Use it wisely, and romance will follow. Ooh, good one. Yeah, I hope so.

SPEAKER_14 29:17

Ooh, good one. Linda is Vincent's long-suffering girlfriend who's seen every one of his bad ideas play out in real time and is understandably skeptical when his newest plan involves teaming up with a gigantic, overly polite stranger claiming to be his twin.

SPEAKER_12 29:36

I think Linda was probably on the weaker side of characters for this movie.

SPEAKER_14 29:43

She is, I think you're right. It was I don't it was one of those where I don't know if it was poorly written or if it was poorly acted. And I think that's a fair criticism. But I think she was a bad choice for this character. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 29:55

Sorry, Chloe Webb. You know, she I think she's meant to provide some chaotic comic energy. And in many ways, she does parallel Vincent's chaos. But I I don't really I mean I don't feel the chemistry between them. She was a wet rag. Yeah. She was. And and and a bit too much of a pushover. Yeah. But I think also that some of that pushoverness is essential to move the plot forward.

SPEAKER_10 30:29

Yeah. Well, she was one of the first people that we see Danny DeVito swindling and conning. Yeah. Yeah. Don't give him any money.

SPEAKER_14 30:37

I gave him money. Don't give me any eye. Oh, not those eyes. Don't give me those sad eyes. Yeah, I don't know. She was like, she was mostly flat. Like, I don't know if they were trying to make like that voice was what they were hoping for, but it was just bland and kind of emotionless. And I just I wasn't really drawn by her. Yeah. I didn't I didn't love that character in this movie.

SPEAKER_12 31:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 31:04

Not one bad.

SPEAKER_12 31:05

I I understand why she may have been cast in this movie because just prior to Twins, she she got a lot of attention for her portrayal of Nancy Spongeon opposite Gary Oldman in the movie Sid and Nancy. Okay. So she was on the rise, but then she kind of fell off. Yeah. Um, and this could have been a reason why. Maybe. Uh, because she's been she's done a variety of things since uh she was in the movie Practical Magic and many episodes of TV shows, including Judging Amy, House, Two and a Half Men, and the show is shameless, but but nothing as big as this.

SPEAKER_14 31:43

I heard she also makes most of her money on OnlyFans. That's true. No. I just wanted you to fact check it and go on OnlyFans. How do you know I'm not already there? All right, who else we got? I'm selling my feet videos. He gives me so much money. All right, last on my list is Marnie Mason, played by Kelly Preston.

SPEAKER_08 32:11

Oh no. This bed is lumpy.

SPEAKER_14 32:16

Oh no. Marnie is Linda's eccentric sister who spends most of the movie trying to figure out why this enormous, perfectly polite man is staring at her like she's the most fascinating person he's ever met.

SPEAKER_10 32:31

At the time, Kelly Preston may have been the hottest person on film.

SPEAKER_12 32:36

Yeah. I I didn't remember her being in this movie. And definitely when I saw this movie when I was a kid, I wouldn't have even known who Kelly Preston was. Right. So it was a very pleasant surprise that I enjoyed very much as an adult saying, ooh, there's a young, hot Kelly Preston.

SPEAKER_13 32:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 32:56

Well, I you guys know that I am not pop culture cultured. Um I was watching this movie with my wife, and she's like, oh, Kelly Preston. She was married to John Travolta. That's right. Yep. Until she passed away. And she died of breast cancer. So I knew none of those things.

SPEAKER_12 33:18

You know what? Actually, I did know Kelly Preston from one thing prior to watching this movie. But when I was a kid. What's that? She was in space camp.

SPEAKER_10 33:27

Oh, yeah, space camp. I remember that movie.

SPEAKER_14 33:30

Space camp.

SPEAKER_10 33:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 33:31

I don't know if I saw that one.

SPEAKER_10 33:32

Before your time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 33:34

Yeah. Okay. I wanted to go to space camp whenever I was in like elementary school.

SPEAKER_10 33:37

Oh, yeah. That was like my dream. So these kids go to space camp and they they win this award thing and they get to sit in the rocket during a test fire.

SPEAKER_12 33:47

And there's this like, you know, back in the day when every group of kids had a robot. Yeah. Yeah. So they had a robot.

SPEAKER_10 33:55

Robot buddy. Of course.

SPEAKER_12 33:56

They had a robot buddy that launched the spaceship with them in the spaceship. Oh man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 34:00

So damn it, robot buddy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 34:02

So they so they're on a real mission in the space shuttle because they had to light the other rocket to even it out. Oh. And so they go up to space with the kids in it. Wow. And they had to land it. Sounds amazing. When you're a kid.

SPEAKER_12 34:17

When you're a kid, it's a great movie. Yeah. I watched it. I caught it on something like five years ago. And I'm like, how did I ever even as a kid think this was good?

SPEAKER_10 34:29

Right. Or realistic. Or plausible. It's terrible. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 34:33

Oh man, my real buddy.

SPEAKER_10 34:36

Yeah. Robot buddy. Ah, you rascal. Kelly Preston was pure eye candy. Yeah. Um in much of her roles throughout her career. She was. She was a smoke show. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Did she have a Hanes commercial? No. No.

SPEAKER_12 34:54

She didn't need one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 34:56

Pish posh.

SPEAKER_12 34:57

Uh other things you may have seen her in. And ruled a little bit as you watched. From Dust Till Dawn. Jerry Maguire. For love of the game.

SPEAKER_14 35:06

And Sky High. So Jerry Maguire, was she the one that said, show me the money? Yeah. That's the one. That was the one.

SPEAKER_12 35:14

Well, that's that movie, but that was Jerry. No. Jerry Maguire said that. But she played Jerry's love interest at the beginning of the movie. Is he pulling my leg? No. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_14 35:31

I was thinking about Tom Cruise, not Kelly Preston. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Slightly different. You could see how I would mess that up, though. Yeah, I think Kelly's taller. Sorry, Tom. Yeah. She's the one that doesn't have the alien inside of her head. That would be the one.

SPEAKER_10 35:50

Okay. But she doesn't do all those cool stunts either.

SPEAKER_12 35:53

Nah. Alright, well, now that we've talked about the characters that are in this movie, what do you guys say? We take a moment. Oh, beer talk. And we talk about beer number two. For a second beer of the podcast, we're drinking Good Behavior. It's a crushable IPA from Odell Brewing Company. Brian, this was your beer for the evening. Tell us all about it.

SPEAKER_10 36:19

Okay. Well, obviously, I chose it because of its name Good Behavior. Uh, Julius is always telling Vincent throughout the movie, you have to be good. And so I picked it based on the name. It's an IPA. I just took my first taste, and it reminds me of a hoppy seltzer. Mm-hmm. Yep. I was gonna say, is yours a little like overcarbed?

SPEAKER_12 36:43

Yeah, it's a little overcarb. I don't know if I'd say it's overcarb, but it's definitely higher on the carb than what I would normally like. It kind of burns my tongue a bit. It's a little sparkly in the tongue.

SPEAKER_10 36:54

And it's okay, so it's it's a crushable IPA. It's supposed to be like uber sessionable. Um 4% ADB. 4%.

SPEAKER_12 37:06

And it 110 calories per can. It's damn near health food. You're you're drinking a carrot. Woo!

SPEAKER_10 37:13

It is exceptionally thin. It is. I I don't I get a little bit of the hop. I don't get a whole lot of beer. Yeah, not really. And the carb? Yeah, it's a little much. It is a little much.

SPEAKER_14 37:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 37:30

It's not bad. Oh no, I suck again.

SPEAKER_14 37:36

You know, I will finish it. Yeah. But I'm not buying this again. I wouldn't buy it. No, I wouldn't. But it's not terrible.

SPEAKER_10 37:48

I I don't know. I mean, lawnmowing beer, it's more like lawnbow, lawnmowing seltzer.

SPEAKER_12 37:55

Yeah. Yeah. All good things in balance. We set out to create an IPA that's both sessionable and bursting with hop flavor.

SPEAKER_10 38:07

I don't get much bursting of anything except carb. It's bursting with carbonation.

SPEAKER_12 38:13

Yeah. Good behavior is built like an IPA with bright hop flavors of tropical fruit and juicy peach, yet balanced with a light body, slight haze, and crisp finish that's truly crushable. Or so they say.

SPEAKER_10 38:42

I have to say that the folks at Odell brewing have a great marketing team.

SPEAKER_14 38:49

You know, they I I've had other Odell beers, and there's some pretty good ones.

SPEAKER_10 38:54

Yeah, they're from uh Colorado. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 38:56

Yeah. Fort Collins. Yeah, this one, this one's not one of them, though. Not great. It's not the best. No. It's not terrible. It's I I'll drink it, I'll finish it. I've had worse.

SPEAKER_10 39:09

Yeah. I probably brought that too. But hey, the can looks cool. It does look cool. It's got a great name. It's got a halo. Yeah, it does. It's good behavior. It fit the theme very well. It fit the theme greatly.

SPEAKER_12 39:26

It did. If I crushed this though, I would be burping for days. Yeah. Yeah. I'll have this as a sipper. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 39:38

I mean, not terrible, but we we've had better. Yep. We have. Alright. I'm just proud that I went with an IPA. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give me some love. I will. Outside your box. A little outside. I'm not a hop head. You went outside the comfort zone. And are we are we converting you? Not really. Yeah. I mean, I drink them and I enjoy some of them. You know. Just not as much as others. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 40:01

Yeah. Definitely not this one.

SPEAKER_12 40:06

Alright. What do you guys say we get into the nitty-gritty of this movie? Let's dive in. I say do it. So we learn through narration uh at the beginning of this movie that there was a secret genetics experiment attempting to create the perfect child using sperm from six different fathers. And the results of this experiment were twins. We have Julius Benedict and Vincent Benedict. And very different upbringings. Julius is raised on a remote South Pacific Island by scientist Professor Warner. He's educated to be the ideal human being. He learns 12 languages and excels academically. He becomes extremely strong, intelligent, and morally pure. And he only learns about his brother on his 35th birthday. And upon learning about his brother, Julius sets off on a mission to find him. So I have a question. He leaves the island.

SPEAKER_15 41:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 41:10

He does. In a rubber dinghy. Uh-huh. You know my thing about movies and last names. Yeah. Benedict. Huh? Do you find any correlation in this movie as to why? Like, why did they choose Benedict for the last name? Is there anything you can think of? Ex Benedict? Benedict Arnold? Benedict Arnold. Yeah. But like do you have any anything into that? No.

SPEAKER_12 41:38

I mean, do you?

SPEAKER_14 41:40

No, I don't.

SPEAKER_12 41:41

Okay. I'm just curious. Just curious? Yeah. Conversation starter. Yeah, I think it's just probably throwing a dart at a you know at the at a piece of paper and saying, oh, there we go.

SPEAKER_14 41:50

That's a name. Could it be like you know, like you said before, maybe it's an homage to somebody, you know, like there was like something that we don't know a little behind the scenes. Film teacher, you know, the last name is a benedict or whatever. It sounds stately.

SPEAKER_10 42:04

Mm-hmm. I don't know. That's about all I can think of.

SPEAKER_14 42:08

Just it's an odd last name. That's about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 42:15

Just curious. Uh Vincent, we learn, uh, was raised in a Los Angeles orphanage run by nuns. Uh, he's grown up to become a small town or small time criminal involved in shady deals and car theft. Uh, and he owns 20 or he owes$20,000 to the Klain brothers, who are dangerous loan sharks. Um where he and unfortunately, he eventually gets arrested over unpaid parking tickets. Yep.

SPEAKER_10 42:43

Okay, so when when Julius leaves the island in the dinghy, yeah. I loved the the the wide shot of him and the dinghy rowing. Uh-huh. And it looks like the dinghy is powered by a motor because he's rowing so hard. I I chuckled out loud at that. I thought that was hilarious. Just an example showing how exuberantly physically fit he was. And with it being Arnold Schwarzenegger and how he's built, and he is such a physical specimen. I just that tickled me. I thought that was funny. That was funny. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 43:16

There is a hole here in the movie for me. Uh, because how does he why does he end go to this island? I know the professor takes him there for some reason, but feels like why?

SPEAKER_14 43:30

Why? Oh, because that's not that's not where he was born, right? No. Okay. Because there was like a secret like He was born in like what Santa Fe, New Mexico? Los Los Alamos.

SPEAKER_10 43:40

Los Alamos, right. Right, right. Yeah, why was he on an island? He was probably taken away, secluded, removed from everything, and and so there was like no influence or whatnot?

SPEAKER_12 43:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 43:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 43:54

Yeah, but but basically he he's been raised on this island since the time he was a baby. By this weird ass scientist who fed him tons of books and taught him lots of knowledge, but he's had no interaction with with the world. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 44:14

No practical experience. Okay, so you know, there's more than one plot hole already. Um the other one being, how is he the son of six different men? Um they don't get into the science of it.

SPEAKER_12 44:29

Okay. We do get a glimpse we do get a glimpse of this giant pumping machine that sure looks like something's being jerked off. Yeah. And apparently somehow that that results in some form of sperm cocktail.

SPEAKER_10 44:46

But it only takes one sperm cell. Right. Maybe they combined the cells into a supercell. I I don't know. I don't know the science behind what they did.

SPEAKER_12 44:57

See, I would think it would make more sense if they had like a cannon that fired sperm into each other to where they would become one sperm. Oh, like a super collider. Like exactly, like the Hadron Super Collider in CERN, but instead this is a this is just a pumping machine in Los Alamos. You think a place where they fucked around with nuclear bombs, they could come up with something fancier than it's just a giant jerk off machine. I need to go visit that.

SPEAKER_10 45:24

Uh can I get a towel, please?

SPEAKER_14 45:26

What's going on over there? Clean up aisle three. Do you need a volunteer?

SPEAKER_12 45:33

Uh anyway, uh Julius he he he makes his way to Los Angeles to find Vincent. And once he's there, he enjoys ice cream, hot dogs, pizza, a euro. Yeah. And but and is generally overwhelmed by everything he sees.

SPEAKER_14 45:51

Yeah, and I mean it's LA too. So it's not like he just like walked into like middle of nowhere, Kansas. You know, this is LA. I imagine that'd be pretty overwhelming for anybody. A lot. We haven't had tacos from a lot.

SPEAKER_10 46:08

We haven't had tacos. And then he finds himself in front of that uh adult shop. Yup. Do women really wear these? And the guy says, if you're lucky, they do.

SPEAKER_15 46:21

Right.

SPEAKER_12 46:22

And I love this scene because he he's standing talking to this guy who is like waves to his buddy who's on a motorcycle, who comes riding up to steal his suitcase out of his hand. And he this guy on the motorcycle grabs the suitcase, and instead of taking the suitcase, he comes flying off the motorcycle, lands flat on his back, and Julius is completely apologetic about it. Like, I'm so sorry. Yeah, he was upset about it. Yeah, he hurt the guy.

SPEAKER_03 46:47

I did nothing. I did not think was his enemy.

SPEAKER_10 46:53

Maybe you could consider wearing a helmet.

SPEAKER_12 46:58

Um, but anyway, Julius makes his way to the orphanage that that Vincent grew up in. Um, and while he's there, uh has some interaction with uh with I guess the head nun of the nunnery. Yeah, who who I recognized. Oh, yeah, and where from? I have no idea. Okay, good story.

SPEAKER_08 47:19

Odd contents of his files are missing.

SPEAKER_02 47:23

That is Vince? He looks so happy.

SPEAKER_08 47:27

He should. So did Vincent. He disgraced Sister Maria, who had to leave the order. Then he stole all the money from the library fund and ran away.

SPEAKER_12 47:43

So whenever I heard this, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, did she just gloss over the fact that he fucked a nun?

SPEAKER_10 47:49

And it comes back later.

SPEAKER_14 47:50

And yeah, it does come back later, but I'm like, wait, wait, wait, what? Uh-huh. And also at 12 years old. At 12 years old. There was another part where he started the one fire that they ever had.

SPEAKER_13 48:04

Every orphanage.

SPEAKER_12 48:07

You know, but but this you know, different times have different moral morality when it comes to humor, I guess. Because my wife and my daughter have been going back and watching Dawson's Creek. Oh my. Oh boy. And in the first seasons of Dawson's Creek, there's an a whole plot line about how a 15-year-old boy bangs his teacher. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 48:37

How did that fly in the 90s? You know, I guess. Well, and see, they almost kind of romanticized it too. They did. It wasn't like don't that I sat around and watched lots of Dawson's Creek, but I it it seemed like they were But it wasn't like don't do this. Yeah. Like there was like no consequence to it either. It was just like, oh yeah, I'm just banging my teachers, no big deal. Yeah. Okay. So let's all bang our teachers at 15.

SPEAKER_12 49:02

So I guess. And then 10 years prior to this, yeah, we're just making it making jokes about 12-year-old fucking nuns.

SPEAKER_14 49:09

Well, apparently she was willing.

SPEAKER_10 49:12

Well, it it adds to the backstory of Vincent being uh kind of a con guy. Uh-huh. Yep. You know, being a smooth talker. I mean, because if you can you can bag a nun. Right. You uh you can pretty much talk your way into anything. Exactly. It's like playing at Carnegie Hall.

SPEAKER_12 49:35

Yeah. Right.

unknown 49:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 49:37

Uh anyway, the the the the nun in charge, the head nun, um, basically tells Julius, if you're looking for Vincent, you should probably look in jail. Because that's where he'll be. Good call. Ah, there it is. Thanks, good behavior.

SPEAKER_10 49:55

That's not good behavior. Where's your manners?

SPEAKER_03 50:00

But I must find my brother. You know where he might be.

SPEAKER_08 50:03

Jail. A man of his character can only be in jail. You're full of goodness, Julius. I pray you'd never find him.

SPEAKER_12 50:15

Uh lo and behold, sure enough, that's where Vincent is. Yeah. Yeah, he's there. Yeah. I mean, she called it. Yep. He's there because of his uh unpaid parking tickets. Once again, another movie where those unpaid parking tickets really bite you in the ass.

SPEAKER_10 50:32

Right. We I growing up, I thought as an adult, unpaid parking tickets would be a bigger issue. Right, for sure.

SPEAKER_12 50:39

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 50:40

They're not.

SPEAKER_12 50:41

No.

unknown 50:42

No.

SPEAKER_12 50:43

When I was in college, uh, I had a number of unpaid parking tickets and they tried holding my diploma. Right.

SPEAKER_10 50:49

You can't graduate until you have that rectified.

SPEAKER_14 50:51

Well, I graduated, but they just wouldn't give me the piece of paper that said I graduated. Interesting. I got a bunch of parking tickets at SAUE. But I didn't go there, so it didn't matter. Who cares? Who cares? What are you gonna do now we graduate from the school I don't go to?

SPEAKER_10 51:07

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_14 51:08

They know now. Oh shit. They know where you are. Son of a bitch. That's probably gonna be like 30 bucks.

SPEAKER_12 51:18

Interest charges.

SPEAKER_14 51:20

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_12 51:20

Yeah. 50. So yeah, he me he finds Vincent in jail, and this is their opportunity to meet. Um you know, it takes them both, I think, a bit by surprise. Uh because you know, when when Julius is sitting there waiting for Vincent to show up, this very large gentleman comes walking by and you see him kind of watch him, like, oh, is this my brother?

SPEAKER_10 51:45

Yeah, is that him?

SPEAKER_12 51:45

Uh and then, you know, this little guy comes sitting down instead. And he goes, goes talk to him. He's like, hey, I know I'm looking for Vincent. And they tell him that's him. And so he goes, sits down, and this is now their opportunity to actually mean there's some miscommunication about how to communicate because there's the glass between them. And so Vincent has to, you know, tell him, you know, use the phone, dummy. And and then they they they have their their first little chit chat.

SPEAKER_03 52:11

I know you don't know who I am, but believe me, I came halfway across the six hours to pay the money back.

SPEAKER_05 52:18

And tell the claim brothers that harassing a man who's already in the slammer is beneath even them, all right? I don't know any claim brothers. I'm your brother, Julius.

SPEAKER_03 52:29

Huh? Come again? My name is Julius, and I'm your twin brother.

SPEAKER_05 52:39

Oh, obviously. The moment I sat down, I thought I was looking into a mirror.

SPEAKER_03 52:44

We are not identical twins, see? Oh no? No. Well, I wouldn't be too sure. Don't lie.

SPEAKER_05 52:51

I am your brother. You must let me help you get out of here. You want to help me get out? Yes, right now. Well, money talks and bullshit walks.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

How can bullshit walk?

SPEAKER_14 53:10

So I really liked this scene. I liked the the interaction between Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger. I thought it was great. Whenever Arnold Schwarzenegger is sitting there, or I guess I should call him Vincent. When Vincent's sitting there, or no, I'm sorry, Julius is sitting there and he's like talking and like giving his whole spiel, and he can't hear a word he's saying. And Vincent's on the other side, just like, oh yeah, I totally get it. I can hear everything you're saying, and he was like mouthing along with him. And it was just so funny. Danny DeVito just cracks me up, he kills me. I like him a lot.

SPEAKER_12 53:44

But Julius ends up bailing Vincent out of jail. And then uh also pays to get his car out of the impound lot. Uh Vincent, once he's in his car, he's like, see ya, sucker, and leaves Julius behind.

SPEAKER_10 54:02

Yeah, he he got what he wanted out of jail. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 54:05

That's all he wanted to do. See ya. Yep. Julius tracks Vincent down, though, at his place of work. Uh, where Morris Klain is uh he's about ready to beat the schnott out of Vincent over the debt that he owes. Right. He came to get his money. Yep, and uh Julius easily defeats Morris.

SPEAKER_03 54:31

You have no respect for logic.

SPEAKER_05 54:33

But he's got an axe.

SPEAKER_03 54:39

And I have no respect for those with no respect for logic. You're a very stupid person.

SPEAKER_05 54:51

You tell your brother he messes with me, he messes with my whole family.

SPEAKER_14 54:57

Now, did you notice that whenever this guy came, like when Danny DeVito's at his office, right? His it's like it's Vincent, you know, and then it's got like a bunch of different sports agent, all this stuff. And also on there, it was like Bookie, sports agent, blah blah blah blah, wholesale patio furniture. Jack of all trades. I caught that and I was like, man, that's really funny. That they just somebody threw that in there and it was funny.

SPEAKER_10 55:26

So what was the this introduces us to a phrase that Julius says throughout the whole movie during conflict. Um what is the first rule of a crisis situation or the first rule of negotiation? I I don't remember what he said. Yeah, the first rule of a crisis situation. Yeah. Because it it comes up again and again. Yeah, it's kind of a theme. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it sure is.

SPEAKER_12 55:54

Vincent uh Well, he he's a bit of a ne'er do well. Playing. Yeah, absolutely. And he's got a bit of a scam that he's been running. And this is uh we we saw him do it once already to start the film off, where he's got a buddy uh works in a parking garage played by David Caruso. CSI Miami? CSI Miami.

unknown 56:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 56:18

All right. Who tips him off whenever a nice car comes to the parking garage, and then Vincent goes and steals said car and then sells it at a chop shop. Um he's got a tip that there's a Cadillac there. So he so Vincent goes to steal this Cadillac, and he now that he's got Julius, he's got a sidekick.

SPEAKER_10 56:38

He does. He's got the muscle. And he didn't leave Julius behind this time because Julius is his He's proved himself to be handy. No, he's gonna protect him from the bad guys.

SPEAKER_12 56:50

So they're in the parking garage and they're here, you know, and Julius tells or I'm sorry. Vincent tells Julius, oh my god. That's that's good behavior. Yeah, that's good behavior. Vincent tells Julius that he's got to move this car to help a buddy out. Uh but you know, he can't find the key. He usually leaves the key behind the wheel. Oh, by right behind there. And and uh, but you know, you know what? We're just gonna have to we're just gonna have to let ourselves into the car. And you know, so he he jimmies his way in, which sets off the car alarm. And Julius lifts the back end of the car, picks it up, hoisting it up to 45 degrees, because as Julius explains, if you lift a car to 45 degrees, it the resets the mercury switch because the car will assume it's being towed. How does he know that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 57:45

Oh, he read it in the book. He read it in the book.

SPEAKER_12 57:48

He's reading Cadillac instruction manuals and and the island in Fiji. I mean, it could just be all cars. Maybe. Why would he need to know that?

SPEAKER_10 57:58

I never knew if that was a real thing or not.

SPEAKER_12 58:00

I don't know either. I don't know. Well, we need to go start just lifting the back end of cars 45 degrees and find out. Who's got an alarm on their car? I think we all do it. We all probably do. I don't think I do. Who wants to lift the back end of a car 45 degrees? I could do it. Could you? No.

SPEAKER_14 58:17

Your spine will shoot out of your ass. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't even think it would make it that far. Like my back would just skip out. And I'd just be laying on the ground.

SPEAKER_12 58:28

Um so but but so now they've got the Cadillac, and so Vincent is driving the Cadillac, and Julius is driving Vincent's car, which I believe is a Mustang convertible.

SPEAKER_10 58:38

Yeah, a little fox body.

SPEAKER_12 58:41

My dad had one of those.

SPEAKER_14 58:42

It was red, also. I like that body style.

SPEAKER_10 58:45

Yeah, it's cool. It's less ostentatious than the classic one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 58:49

I also liked then so there was a scene like whenever Julius got in the car with Vincent. Vincent now puts on a driving hat, like it's his ball cap. And I thought it was real funny that whenever Julia started driving Vincent's car, put it on the capital. Yeah, yeah. Like it was just like he just assumed that's what you do when you drive a car. Like, ah, sweet.

SPEAKER_12 59:10

Well, and on the way to the parking garage, Julius finds out he's gonna have to drive this car. Uh-huh. And so he's like, he he speed reads the instruction manual, the owner's manual.

SPEAKER_14 59:20

Which doesn't tell you how to drive. No, no, not one bit.

SPEAKER_12 59:24

And as they leave, um, yeah, Julius is driving the Mustang with mixed results. Uh-huh. Um, and and Vincent calls him up on the cell phone, the car phone, and telling him where to go. And so they go into this this shopping grocery store, uh, and as Julius comes in, he goes up on the two wheels.

SPEAKER_10 59:48

On the two wheels, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 59:50

Uh-huh. That is such a movie thing. It is. It is a movie thing. It is in so many 80s and 90s movies. I've never seen it in real life. I've never seen it in real life. No, that'd be awesome. It would be. Yeah. But you see it in all the movies. And so movies anyway.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:05

And he slows down and the car falls back on all four wheels right in the parking party spot.

SPEAKER_14 1:00:11

Yeah. Perfect.

SPEAKER_15 1:00:12

Like a glove.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:16

Well, they go into the the grocery store. Um, they run into just so happened to run into Linda and and Marnie. Julius encounters Marnie first.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:30

With a Playboy in his hand.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:32

Because he he's flipping through a Playboy magazine, and she doesn't know who he is, and he doesn't know who she is, and they they're kind of talking and chatting and getting a little flirt on.

SPEAKER_14 1:00:42

She's immediately smitten. Yeah. Did you notice though, like something right before this happened? She, it was it was Marnie and what's her name? Linda? Linda. Marnie and Linda are in the grocery store smoking. And do you remember do you remember smoking in grocery stores? Not me, like I didn't get to do that at that point, but I remember people smoking in grocery stores. But she was going to make him a cake, I guess, for his birthday, right? Um because they both had just had a birthday. And she was like, Angel food or devil's food? And they're like, oh, definitely. But did you notice where she put the angel food? Yeah, she put it back on top. She put it in the wrong fucking spot.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:21

What a bitch. No kidding. An example of her character. Oh a bit lower class.

SPEAKER_14 1:01:29

Like, why would you do that? And it was not even like, it wasn't like next to it. It was like on a different, like higher shelf. Right. It's with a something completely different. Like, what a bitch.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:38

Who makes either one of those for a birthday cake?

SPEAKER_14 1:01:41

Oh no.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:42

No.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:43

No. I think they wanted the angels food, devil's food. I get it. I get it. He's a devil, not an angel.

SPEAKER_14 1:01:50

He's not an angel. A little devil. I think angel food cakes are bullshit. Oh, I could not agree more. Oh, they're so gross. I think do you like them? No. Okay. You were kind of hesitant, like, well, okay. Do you like them? No.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:07

So okay. All right. Here's here's all I could say. Too much air. I don't know if cake. My cake experience is somewhat tainted. Okay. But tell me about it. Growing up, I had two parents who were ministers. Sure.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:23

Oh, he's gonna go the potluck route here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:25

Lots of cake. So between and at one point in my childhood. So both my parents were Methodist ministers. Okay. And Methodist ministers would often have multiple churches within a charge. Does that do Methodists not believe in cake? I'm getting there, okay? Fuck you. I'm getting there. There was one point in my childhood. Between my two minister parents, they served nine different churches.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:54

For a year damn near straight. A week did not go by where I did not have to go to at least one potluck dinner.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:03

At potlucks, you have all menagerie of different kinds of foods, including desserts. Uh-huh. And when you're a kid, oh, cake. How can you go wrong with cake? Sure. You can go wrong with cake. Of course you can. Yeah. So I have had extremely good cakes of all kinds. I've also had extremely shit cakes of all kinds. Right.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:24

I don't trust cake anymore. I'm going to be honest with you. I thought the way that story was prefaced that you were going to say because your parents were ministers, that you were only allowed to angel food cake.

SPEAKER_15 1:03:37

Oh no. No. But I can tell you, I've never had devil's food cake. I've never, you know what?

SPEAKER_12 1:03:43

Honestly, I've never put two and two together on this. I don't know that I've ever actually had devil's food cake at a church potluck. But I've had many angels food cakes. Yeah. And they've almost probably 75% of them have sucked.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:58

Yeah. They're awful. And it's like they always had the confetti inside. Like, yeah, they're they're gross. Yeah, there's so many foods I cannot trust as a case.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:06

You know what is a solid cake?

SPEAKER_14 1:04:08

What's that? Carrot cake. Carrot cake is the best.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:11

Oh, it can be.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:13

You're right. You're right. Carrot cake is one of those that I've managed to regain a degree of trust in, and I will try it because when it is good, it is so good. It is so good. But sometimes people put things in it that don't belong in it.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:26

Yeah, what is green in a carrot cake? I've had carrot cake with like green stuff in it. Ooh. Yeah. Maybe. Could be. I don't know. Zucchini carrot cake. I've had carrot cake with raisins.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:40

Oh, no, thanks. Yeah. Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:43

Yeah, I don't like raisins or nuts in my carrot cake. Yeah, I've had it with nuts too. Yeah. But I think there's so much bumps on your way to Flavortown.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:57

But here's a problem with high apple stuff with nuts. Nuts is just a blank it is just a blanket label. There are so many different kinds of nuts. Some of them are better than others. Oh sure. Like I don't mind like I don't know, like like crushed walnuts. But fucking pecans? No! Hmm. That was angry. You don't like the pecan? No. No pecans? No pecans. Pecan? Pecan. Pecan. Who's pecan? I'm gonna fight. Anyways, yeah. So no. No. We went on a tan.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:35

We did. Angel food cake is it's bullshit. It is bullshit. Yeah. Sucks. Agree. How can it be hard and soft at the same time? Where do you guys stand on the butt cake?

SPEAKER_10 1:05:47

Oh, I'm a big fan of the bun cake. I can eat a bun cake. I like a bun cake. Especially the little glaze over the top. Oh, that's delightful. Then you have like the lemon poppy seed bun cake. You've got the chocolate bun cake. I mean. Number of great cakes. Oh, the raspberry with the raspberry stuff in there. Yeah, it's all good stuff.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:05

Yeah, but none of those are birthday cake.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:08

No.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:08

You could make them a birthday cake. You could say, But why? Because okay, so here's uh my wife really likes pineapple upside down cake. Okay. And when I make it, I make it in a bunt pan instead of a layered cake, right? Uh or like the flat one and flip it over or whatnot. And it's really cool because you mix all the things in the bottom, and when you flip it over, it just goos out all over. Nice. And it's fantastic. And it's real pretty because you also cut the pineapples in halves. And when you stick them in there, when it comes out, it's tick like it's real cool the way it makes into it. You're a regular Betty Crocker? I am. Yeah, because I stole it from YouTube. Nice. Yeah, I learned things from YouTube that's been stolen from YouTube. I mean, people stole stuff to put it on YouTube. But yeah, it looks really cool. But you can do anything in a bun. Yeah. Yeah. Anything? Anything. Oh my. Oh, you only imagine the things I've done in a bun fan. Questionable milkshake.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:06

It's the last time I eat Justin's cake.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:10

Anywho, let's talk about the movie. Yep. So uh yeah, they're in the grocery store. Probably a good idea. Yeah. Uh Vincent uh introduces Julius to his girlfriend Linda and introduces her formally to Marnie. And so now everybody knows each other, and it's all cute and flirty and so on and so forth.

SPEAKER_15 1:07:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:32

Back uh at Vincent's house, uh, as they're walking in, um, the the twins continue the discussion regarding the Mason sisters.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:43

Linda is your girlfriend, isn't she?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:45

Yeah, kinda. Kind of. Is Marnie your girlfriend too? Marnie? Marnie hates my guts. She kind of likes you though. Me? But she hardly knows me. That's the best way.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:00

You see, you see, women love men who are mysterious and devious. Keeps them on their toes and excites them, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:09

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:10

You like very much so.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:12

And you're strange and sensitive. They have compassion. Uh-oh. Have the highest respect for women.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:25

You're a virgin.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:31

It's great. Yeah. Once they're inside the house, uh, unexpected similarities start to to crop up between the two brothers. Uh, one, Vincent has a cat, which he just so happened to name Julius. Yeah. Uh they unwittingly mirror each other's actions while they're getting ready to eat. Um, they even know the same through the lips over the gums rhyme. They do. Um, and you know, the brothers really seem to be be hitting it off. They're they're they're bonding over microwaved eggplant parmesan. Nuked food. And coors light.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:07

He says, I love nuked food. Now I did think it was funny that Vincent had the coors light. And Julius had a few. Julius had a milk. Yeah, I thought that was great. They were the same on every other thing. Like the way they turned their plate, the way they blew on their food, like yeah, everything was the same, but they had milk and beer. That was the only difference.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:28

Julius uh, over dinner, uh, he's filling Vincent in on their shared family history. But but Vincent at this point uh still is a bit skeptical about the the whole tale.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:40

One of our fathers was a famous football player. Yes. And another one was a physicist at MIT. Yes. He won the Nobel Prize, naturally. Now, all of our dads were these big shots. And mom was like superwoman. But she didn't survive the delivery. And I was sent to an orphanage while you were raised on a tropical paradise by a scientist who you do research for, but who doesn't actually pay you because you don't need money. Did I leave anything out?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:18

I think it's important we try to find our fathers.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:21

Oh, you mean the geniuses who contributed to the sperm milkshake? Julius, do you know how many times I've heard stories like this? It's every orphan's fantasy. My real mom and dad were rich and beautiful. But there was a mix-up in the hospital, and I got switched with another baby. But one day, there's gonna be a knock at the door, and there they'll be, with open arms, crying, my darling, my treasure. We didn't know. How can we make it up to you? Let me tell you something for your own good, Julius. It's a crock.

SPEAKER_14 1:11:05

He's not wrong. No, he's not. Nope. And the whole thing is a crock. Yeah. All of it.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:13

Everything they've been told is a crock. And this just really sets the scene for, you know, like you said earlier in the intro, the the nature versus nurture. Oh yeah, for sure. It's not so much what your genetic makeup is, it's the experience that molded you.

SPEAKER_14 1:11:31

Right. I mean, technically they're the same, exact same genetic makeup, right? I mean, well no, they're not genetically. Exact, but it's they would share a lot of similarities. I mean, they're all came well, I guess they mix like supposedly separated the good from the bad like you shouldn't have any bad, right? Oh my goodness, good behavior. There should if you have all these like prime specimens, you shouldn't have any bad. No. And then how could you dominant and recessive traits? How could you ever separate those?

SPEAKER_12 1:12:05

You're getting into the science that's something we probably need to get into.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:09

How they did that is something called movies.

SPEAKER_12 1:12:18

Anywho, um, yeah, so Vince has really taken issue with the with a story that Julius is telling. And Vincent reveals that he stole a document from the orphanage proving that their mother is actually alive. Um but Vincent refuses to find her because, as far as he's concerned, she's a slut and she abandoned him. Um while they're having this discussion, uh the Klein brothers give him a ring. And uh they they they let Vincent know they still want their money. And Vincent's like, fuck you. Right, too bad. And then they shoot out their front window. Right. Yeah. They kind of blew it up. Kind of blew it up. It really was it wasn't clear what happened. I assume they just shot it out with like a shotgun. But it did seem like there's maybe been a bit of an explosion. I mean, it kind of looked like they shot a cannon into it.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:11

But then it's never mentioned again. I mean, really, it's just shooting it out, either way you look at it. Whether it's a shotgun or a shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:24

We're mad.

SPEAKER_12 1:13:25

Yeah. But again, it's never really mentioned again. No. It's just like, oh, we just blew up your front of your house. Bye. Bye. Uh, anyway. So we get we got some trouble brewing uh with the Klein brothers, but also it just happens to turn out that the Cadillac that Vincent and Julia stole from the parking garage was left there to be picked up for some shady dealings. Right. Uh there's this unseemly dude, Webster. Um, he he was supposed to pick up the car. Uh, and when he shows up to get the car, it's not there. And so he goes to the office of the men who left it for him, uh, and they claim that the goods were left in the trunk and instruction for the cassette, but Webster's like, eh, and just shoots the two because they saw his face.

SPEAKER_14 1:14:17

I really liked the character Webster and how nonchalant and cold-blooded he was. Oh, yeah, he was he was he was cool.

SPEAKER_12 1:14:23

So I'm torn on on Webster. Yeah. Because I I think, yeah, I in parts I thought he was methodical and cold, and I appreciated it. Uh huh. But then other parts I thought he was completely bumbling. Not that good. Especially at the end of the movie. And actually, I wonder whether this part of this plot line, because it sometimes it feels like honestly, this plot line was just kind of crammed in and it's completely like tangential. Yeah. Almost like it came from a different movie entirely. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of get that too. And really, given how little this plot, his character in the plot intersects with the main plot, I kind of almost wonder whether this was an in-production add-in.

SPEAKER_14 1:15:12

Oh, I bet it was. Maybe they were just like, This isn't this movie's not as exciting as we thought it was gonna be.

SPEAKER_12 1:15:18

And it could have been the studio could have been watching the dailies and said, Yeah, you know what, there's something missing. We need we need a villain. Right. And I think uh because this feels somewhat contrived, and I think you could honestly have weight, because really they have scenes that we'll get to at the end of the movie, but they could have honestly, even like the road trip they're about to go on, I think all that could have already been planned, but the but the impetus for the road trip they could have easily added in with a second shoot to make it make sense.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:51

You think initially that the villains of the movie are the people that Vincent owes money to.

SPEAKER_12 1:15:56

Yeah. Or the the nefarious scientist that that made the sperm cocktail separate him at birth.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:05

Right. And and so to introduce yet another villainous storyline. Right, so now we have three. Yeah. Yeah, that it was a lot to kind of keep track of.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:16

You needed a bingo card. Yeah. Some kind of scorecard of who who was who.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:22

Is it is that just like the you know, the this is just were they trying to do too much?

SPEAKER_12 1:16:29

I think they need I think they were doing more than what they needed to do, but I think also the problem is, and this and I don't know whether this is a problem or a result, uh the plot is kind of thin. So they're they they really operated the premise is the punchline for this movie.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:45

Well, I would say that's probably the people who green lighted this movie's fault by just saying it'd be funny if we had a tall guy and a short guy and they were twins. Yeah. And they're like, yeah, run with it. Run with it.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:57

It's it's almost like they decided, okay, we need to come up with the reason why they would go to New Mexico. Yeah. Well, let's see, New Mexico's on the way to Houston from LA. We could do that. Oh, you haven't been on a hike unless you've been on a hike in a while. So it to me, it's almost like they they put it in there because they needed an excuse, an easy excuse. And I didn't, like you said, it didn't really fit. Yeah. You have enough contrarians, you don't have to add in Webster with his silence pistol shooting people. Right.

SPEAKER_14 1:17:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:33

That really made it a darker tone.

SPEAKER_14 1:17:36

I mean, he was he was cold-blooded, it was calculated.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:39

I thought it was kind of neat, but he was kind of I do think there are parts where I I agree with you. This part in particular, I kind of actually found there was a hu a dry, sick, twisted humor. Right. And I thought this was gonna be a better character based upon this one scene of him offing the two dudes in the office. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:00

And and his character actually gets better later on when he runs across the brothers who are chasing down Vincent. I mean, he's cool, calm, collected, and cold. Brutal. Yeah, that was awesome, but still funny. Pops him in the leg and walks away, right? You know, yeah. And so I had more hopes for where that character was going. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll get more into that as we get to it.

SPEAKER_12 1:18:27

Yep. Um, back though, with uh Julius, he he's gone and paid a visit to the address that was listed in the document that Vincent had. Uh, and there he meets one of his six genetic fathers who tells him all about the experiment, and he tells him that, you know, where he needs to go to learn more about his backstory.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:52

Your mother was uh an amazing woman. Why didn't you? Oh, I asked her to. She turned me down. She uh said she was afraid to have any more children. See, they they told her you had died at birth.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:18

Who told her we died?

SPEAKER_06 1:19:24

Mitchell Traver. The guy with the clipboard, he supervised the experiment for the garden. Fucking traverse. I'll have to pay him a visit. Yeah, what job for him? He's kind of a dickhead. Dickhead.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:46

No, I don't. But uh I'm learning.

SPEAKER_14 1:19:56

Oh man, I love him so much in this movie.

SPEAKER_12 1:19:59

So Julius now knows where he needs to go to learn more about his backstory. Yeah. Vincent um is driving around town in the Cadillac, and he happens to pop in the tape um into the cassette deck. And on the tape, he he hears a voice that basically is telling Mr. Webster, who was supposed to have picked up the car, that there's goods in the trunk uh that you know he needs to take to Beatroot McKinley and has the phone number to call Mr. Beatroot McKinley. Um Vincent gives Beatroot McKinley. What a dumb name. Yeah. A call. Beatroot and learns from Beatroot uh that if he delivers to the the car to Houston, he he's up for a pretty decent payday.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:54

Five million! Five million dollars! Five million dollars, five million dollars, five, five million dollars, five million dollars, five million.

SPEAKER_12 1:21:13

Did you guys catch how much he was gonna make? Because I don't think I caught it.

SPEAKER_14 1:21:15

I think it was five million. Five million? I think it was ten, I was torn between like three and seven million. I couldn't I couldn't. If you kind of average that out, it gives us five. Five million.

SPEAKER_12 1:21:27

Okay, five million dollars. Yeah. That's a nice payday. That's a heck of a for driving a Cadillac from LA to Houston. To Houston. So Vincent is in a rush. He's loading up the car, wants to head to Houston. Julius shows up and he's like, no, we need to go to New Mexico. Um, I don't why am I even trying that? I can't do that. I feel terrible even attempting it. Uh needs to go to New Mexico so they could search for Dr. Traven and learn where where you know what's up with their mom. Uh Julius says that New Mexico is on the way. And Vincent eventually agrees and says that they can go together. Uh, but while Julius is in the house packing his bag, Vincent hops in the car and starts to back out the driveway because he's gonna blow them off and leave him behind. Like he did uh once before. Yep. Uh but but just as he's ready to pull out, um, he stopped at the last second when Linda and Marnie pull into the driveway to deliver him a birthday cake. Birthday cake, devil's food. Uh and Marnie has also baked something special just for Julius. Uh, she's made him a tray of cookies. Yeah. And so she goes in to give them to him personally, and he's so excited because he can't wait to toss the cookies. Right. That's actually what he said. I'm excited. I can't wait to toss your cookies. I can't wait to toss them. Yeah. Um, and you know, and Marnie catches Julius just he's getting out of the shower, and man, those CFMs she's throwing him may have been deadly.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:02

Yeah, no doubt. I mean, it was it was yeah, so obvious.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:07

Yeah, this is peak physical Arnold. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:11

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:12

Even his muscles had muscles. Uh huh. So, yeah, that was that was pretty impressive. He's a massive dude. I mean, holy smokes.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:21

He was in all his pectoral glory. They were huge. Like they're the size of my head. It was awesome. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. Mr. Was he a five-time Mr. Olympia?

SPEAKER_12 1:23:32

I don't know, but I know multiple times. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:36

He was he was racked, stacked, and packed. He's a beast of a man, that is for sure.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:43

Uh, outside the house, uh, Linda convinces Vincent to take her with them on their road trip. She did.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:58

So Because Vincent shows her what's in the trunk.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:02

Another stretch. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:03

Vincent shows her what's in the trunk of the car. Another thing you wouldn't normally do. So, yeah, there's there's some gaps here. Because why, number one, would he show her that? Right. Number two, why would she be so excited about it and say, let's go on the trip with you?

SPEAKER_14 1:24:21

Number three, and this comes back to it a little bit later. And I won't give the whole thing away, but there's luggage thrown out of the car.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:30

At them by Vincent. Where did their luggage come from? Because she was like, We're coming with you. You had nothing packed. No. You didn't have a change of underwear. Yeah, the clothes on your back, and that's it. Yeah. And you were like, let's go. And they took off, and then all of a sudden you have luggage later. Yeah.

unknown 1:24:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:48

I mean, I I guess maybe they swung by their apartment so they could pack.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:53

I guess so. That could be.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:54

Could be. But yeah, so so lo and behold, because apparently no one has anything to do for the next few days, they all pile in the Cadillac and head out of town on the cross country road trip. Um, so we have Julius, Vincent, Linda, and Marnie all traveling together. And Linda, you know, it's like says to Julius, Do you mind if I sit on the front seat with Vincent? And of course he lets him. And then he always goes to the backseat, and there we have Marnie just looking like a goddamn sex pot. Yep. And uh yeah, so they're they're on the way. Webster um gets information about Vincent from David Caruso uh at the parking garage. Oh yeah. And uh so Webster then knows where Vincent lives and goes to the house. Uh and this is where he finds information about where they're going because Vincent just apparently wrote it down on a piece of paper and tossed it in a trash can, and Webster's found it in the trash. Right. And while he's doing that, the Glean Brothers just happened to show up.

SPEAKER_14 1:26:06

See, I thought Webster was gonna kill Julius the cat. Oh, that would have been up in uh the what the fuck is that movie? What am I thinking of? Pet Cemetery? The Keanu Reese movie. Oh, um they killed his puppy. John Wick. John Wick. Yeah, yeah. Fuck what can I think of John Wick? I don't know. I thought we were gonna end up in a John Wick situation. But regardless, he didn't kill the cat. But the cat did give away Fenton's location.

SPEAKER_12 1:26:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:26:35

Because he was eating that piece of paper for some reason.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:38

Stupid cat. Yeah. Well, I was digging for food in the trash can. It was eating a napkin. But it knocked over the trash can and out spilled the crinkled up piece of paper with the five million dollars on there. See, this is why you just never get cats. I'd agree with that.

SPEAKER_14 1:26:54

They will give up your location.

SPEAKER_12 1:26:57

So Webster knows where to go. And but while he he's still in the house, the Klein brothers show up trying to get money from Vincent, and and they have a bit of an altercation, uh, resulting in Webster shooting two of them square in the leg before leaving.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:12

I love that. Do I look like Vincent? I mean, this is the second example of that uh Webster dude being cold, calculated, and brutal and kind of and kind of cool.

SPEAKER_14 1:27:24

But he also tried to get out of it because he was like, I'm just here to feed the cat, and then I'm on my way. And then they kept pushing, you know. So he shot him.

SPEAKER_12 1:27:34

But I feel like there was an inconsistency here. Because why did he kill him? They saw his face. They saw his face, which is the reason why he I mean, I guess they don't know his name, they can't put a name to the face. Maybe. But yeah, he killed uh his associates in a previous scene because they saw his face. Which they only saw his face because he came to their office. In this case, yeah, three Nairdwell criminals saw your face. Right. And yeah, you you you man, he shot him like in the shin.

SPEAKER_14 1:28:07

Right. That's awful. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:09

That sucks. You know. But like, yeah. Then the guy who doesn't get shot is like, I'm gonna call the doctor. Who calls a doctor? You call an ambulance. I'm gonna call the doctor. I'm gonna call my primary care physician. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:28:22

I'm gonna take him to a vet. Right. So yeah. Uh so now Webster knows where where the brothers are going. Yep. Um, they they do make the stop in New Mexico. Uh, and they go to to have a conversation with Dr. Traven.

SPEAKER_15 1:28:45

No!

SPEAKER_03 1:28:50

That's our mother right now. Those are the six fathers. That's Werner, and that is you. So start talking.

SPEAKER_12 1:28:58

Because he doesn't want to talk at first. Right. So he has yeah, they have to kick the door in. Uh and Draven reveals their their mother lives in an art colony near Santa Fe. Uh and Julius warns Traven that if he's lying to him, he'll be back.

SPEAKER_14 1:29:16

Yeah, I thought that was great. I thought that was great.

SPEAKER_12 1:29:18

Yeah, that was fun.

SPEAKER_14 1:29:19

I'll be back.

SPEAKER_12 1:29:20

Uh and and but Traven also does provide him with a bit more information into their origins.

SPEAKER_16 1:29:29

We're making the most fully developed human the world has ever seen.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:33

But instead of just one perfect kid, Mom had the two of us. Way to go, mom!

SPEAKER_16 1:29:40

Wrong. The embryo did split in two, but it didn't split equally. All the purity and strength went into Julius. All the crap that was left over went into what you see in the mirror every morning.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:56

Whoa, whoa, you tell me I'm the crap?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:58

No, this is not true.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:59

Wait a minute, Julius. I want to hear this. You tell me that I am the leftover crap that I'm no good? He's wrong. Look at him. Are you saying that I'm a side effect?

SPEAKER_10 1:30:14

Yeah, that's what he told him. Vincent. Straight up. Which is another scientific no no. No. If the embryo splits, then you'd be identical. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I know. The science be damned.

SPEAKER_14 1:30:31

Movie.

SPEAKER_12 1:30:34

Um, yeah, Vincent doesn't take the news that he's the reject very well, but but Julius does a really good job at popping him up.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:42

This is my favorite part of the movie. Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:46

Alright. See, Vincent, you're the missing part of my life. And I'm the missing part of your life. And when we find mama, we can feel the missing part of hers. We won't be alone anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:07

We can be a family.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:13

Hear the music. Family. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:21

You mean like with a Christmas tree and Thanksgiving dinner? And a real home. Always.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:37

Even when you've been bad.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:43

Aw. That that whole part once they leave the doctor's office and Vincent's down. And and we hear the tail end of what Julius tells him, but that whole scene of Julius telling Vincent that he has worth that was really that was really neat.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:01

And he really lays out the nature or I'm sorry, the nurture differences that they've had. Yeah, he did. And and basically makes the case like I had this, but you didn't. And this is what I had, and you didn't. And so you know, but we're here together and we can be a family. And it really hits Vincent in the feels.

SPEAKER_14 1:32:22

It hit me a little in the feels. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought Vincent was when he was like with the Christmas tree and Thanksgiving. I thought he was gonna like he was like mocking him and getting ready to like make caught him about.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:36

I was on the fence about that too. I thought yeah, he was gonna be but but the further we get into it, the more that it was clear this was a sincere. It was almost like a kid. It felt like the Grinch, you know, uh at Christmas. Like he he was so jaded, but yeah, his heart grew multiple sizes.

SPEAKER_14 1:32:53

Yeah, yeah, I was just sitting there waiting for him to be like, you fucking idiot.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:58

Oh, you want a Christmas dream.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:59

That happens that happens later. But but if it's still if it wasn't clear, I think in the scenes that follow, it becomes clear that Vincent is fully bought in. Uh-huh. Because he really then from here on out takes Julius under, which seems weird because he's a lot shorter, but he takes Julius under his wing. Right. Puts him above his wing.

SPEAKER_10 1:33:22

Yeah, which is part of the comedy.

SPEAKER_12 1:33:24

And you know, he's like, you're not gonna, no one's gonna meet my mom dressed like you. We are gonna go get you a good outfit. And so that we get that fun scene of them shopping together and and doing the suits. And we we get you know the the iconic moment of them coming out dressed in the same outfit and putting on the sunglasses and learning how to walk with a hot dog, having a little bit and even carries over into the hotel room where where Vincent is giving Julia some uh tips on dating and dancing.

SPEAKER_14 1:33:56

Oh, did you notice? I don't know if this was like a mix-up or whatever, but Vincent, when they're doing the dance lessons, Vincent says, I'll give you a couple printers instead of pointers. It was printers. I don't know if it was a mix-up they didn't catch or if he just said it that way. It was really funny.

SPEAKER_12 1:34:20

And so at the end of the day, the you know, the brothers take the sisters out to a bar uh where they're dancing and having a good time. Did either of you catch the band? Notice the band playing? I I noticed the band playing, yeah. I don't know who they were. Well, the guitarist was Jeff Beck. Your your face is clearly telling me you don't know who Jeff Beck is. Who's Jeff Beck? Jeff Beck is a famous guitarist. Oh, he was in the Yardbirds and a bunch of other stuff.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:48

Oh, the Yardbirds. Yeah. All right. Oh he was in the Yardbirds and a bunch of other stuff.

SPEAKER_12 1:34:53

And a bunch of other stuff. Duh.

SPEAKER_10 1:34:55

Yeah. Sorry. There's a there's a hole in my knowledge base. I should have known that. Jeff Beck.

SPEAKER_09 1:35:01

Yeah. There's a hole in my knowledge that can only be filled by Jeff Beck.

SPEAKER_10 1:35:08

Better than filling a different hole. Which hole?

SPEAKER_12 1:35:12

Yeah, but they're they're they're having a good time, and they're really hitting it off. Um, and you know, Julius, you know, it's really what or Vincent really wants Julius to know he he's got a man in the shade with Marnie.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:29

Hey, Jules, Marnie's got the hots for you, babe. Tonight is your lucky night. I know it. I don't think Marnie really likes Marnie. Oh, are you kidding me? Piece of cake. This woman is right. You just uh, you know, you're nervous because it's your first time. Perfectly natural.

SPEAKER_15 1:35:46

Really?

SPEAKER_03 1:35:51

Were you nervous the first time?

SPEAKER_14 1:35:55

He was twice.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:56

I was 12 years old and she was a nun. Talk about pressure.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:02

Oh no, I okay. I wanna just he was 12 years old and she was a nun. Talk about pressure. Uh huh. Okay. Now, as fucked up as it is, did that nun have a lot to compare against? Where was the pressure?

SPEAKER_14 1:36:20

Oh, she shouldn't.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:23

Unless she converted later.

SPEAKER_10 1:36:25

You know, like she wasn't born a nun.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:27

Right. The the other thing from this discussion I like to bring up, he describes Marnie as being ripe. Yeah. She's ripe.

SPEAKER_10 1:36:36

That's true. Now, this is almost 40 years or 40, yeah, 40, 38 years ago.

SPEAKER_13 1:36:42

Oh man, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:36:44

So times they be a changing. They sure do. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_14 1:36:47

You know what I think of like when somebody says, Oh, you're ripe, it's like you smell better. You smell bad. I got some B.O. going on. Put on some deodorant. You're ripe. I guess he I guess he means ripe for the pickings.

SPEAKER_10 1:37:01

Yeah, ripe for the pickings, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:04

And as it turns out, he's he guess on that front, probably not entirely wrong. Uh, because Julius and Marnie do they do better smooching. They do. Yeah. Uh she was ripe. But the the the Klain brothers apparently tracked him all the way from LA to this little roadside country bar in New Mexico.

SPEAKER_14 1:37:32

How do you how do you find them?

SPEAKER_12 1:37:34

Well, you know, they they knew that Marnie and Linda were on going to New Mexico because I guess they one of them had called and said into work. Into work, saying we're not coming to work because we're going on a road trip to New Mexico. Oh, and then subsequently were fired. You know. Because, you know, I guess you just that's what happens when you don't go to work.

SPEAKER_10 1:37:59

Yeah, they didn't give much notice.

SPEAKER_12 1:38:00

No, yeah. Uh, and I I could see how a supervisor maybe annoyed by that. But but yeah, the fact that you, for some reason, would then follow them to New Mexico and just so happen to go to the exact bar where they were hanging out seems a bit of a stretch.

SPEAKER_10 1:38:20

Yeah, they just kind of popped in there out of nowhere. And I'm thinking, how did they know where they were?

SPEAKER_14 1:38:25

Movie.

SPEAKER_10 1:38:26

That's true.

SPEAKER_14 1:38:28

Because movie.

SPEAKER_12 1:38:31

Movie. And um, so Julius and Vincent, you know, they fight the McLean brothers off. The Bash Bros. Yeah. And, you know, Julius does most of the work. He does. But Vincent does get a good shot in with the guitar. Yeah, he does, yeah. And I love that moment because afterwards, you know, Julius is like, you I love it when you're violent.

SPEAKER_10 1:38:57

I love it when you hit people. Yeah. Because that's what uh that's what Vincent said uh-huh in the first altercation.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:06

I love it when you hit people.

SPEAKER_12 1:39:08

I love it when you hit people. Back at the hotel, uh, Vincent goes off to spend the night with Linda. And since Vincent's in Linda's room, Marnie has no choice but to come share the room with Julius. Uh, and Julius tells her he she can have either bed because he sleeps on the floor. And so Marnie gets into bed, but you know, darn the luck. The bed is just too lumpy.

SPEAKER_14 1:39:37

It's too lumpy. It's too lumpy.

SPEAKER_12 1:39:38

Can't sleep on the bed. And so she goes, shares the floor with Vincent. Yep. And they do it.

SPEAKER_10 1:39:48

They do. They do. And the look on his face is hilarious. It is. It's great. The little afterglow.

SPEAKER_14 1:39:57

He's got that goofy smile. So this is the thing, like, so this is not Marnie's first time with someone. Uh this is Julius' first time with anyone. Um she's smoking a cigarette afterwards, looking real satisfied. Oh, yeah. And I'm gonna assume at 35 years old, as a virgin who has zero experience, it probably was fast and not good. But she sure did look like she was happy.

SPEAKER_10 1:40:30

Okay, so I thought about that. Because I thought the same thing initially, right? But she just made love with a physical specimen. Yeah. I mean, look at the dude. Yeah. He is rack stacked and packed.

SPEAKER_14 1:40:47

But if it lasts 30 seconds, are you really gonna be like satisfied with that? We don't know how long it lasted. He may maybe maybe he read lots of books. I know how long I lasted whenever I first did it.

SPEAKER_12 1:41:08

I mean, there are other ways to pleasure a woman. T My And there is more. And if he can drive a Mustang after reading the owner's manual, did he read a sex book? Who knows what kind of books he read back on the island? Maybe he read Fifty Shades of Grey. Got a real bondage shit in that hotel room.

SPEAKER_10 1:41:27

Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Anywho, they had a good time.

SPEAKER_12 1:41:31

They did have a good time. Uh after this, the boys go off the next day to to go meet mom. And so they they go to the the art colony uh that Dr. Traven told them about, and and when they first go to the door, that they they are initially refused. But they're like, you know, hey, hey, let's just hop the fence. And so so they all hop the fence.

SPEAKER_14 1:41:59

This is one of my favorite parts because it was something that Vincent said. He goes, just throw me over. And and they do. Yeah, they do. And you hear him land. Just throw me over. He's trying to be like quiet about it, too. Uh, he's so little.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:20

Hey. Should you people be here?

SPEAKER_05 1:42:24

No. Uh-oh. Well, and that depends on how you feel personally about trespassing.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:29

Does he always try to be funny like that?

SPEAKER_03 1:42:32

Well, we are looking for Miss Marian Benedict, please. Yeah. Is she here?

SPEAKER_08 1:42:37

Yeah, she's here.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:39

She's here.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:40

You know, sneaking in like that, I should call the police.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:43

Uh, no, no, no. You don't want to do anything like that. You see, this is not your uh everyday average situation.

SPEAKER_12 1:42:50

And they they explain that they're her long-lost sons. Yep. Uh, and the woman they're talking to tells them that unfortunately and very sadly, their mother passed away. But uh, she is there in spirit. Yeah. And so Julius and Vincent, they they leave, they're ushered out, uh, and they they then drive away. Very dejected. Yeah, very upset. But as it turns out, the woman they were speaking to was their mother all along. Dun dun dun.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:24

But she didn't believe it. She thought they were real estate developers.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:27

Yeah, land speculators.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:29

Right, wanting to take her her, you know, get an inn and buy the property.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:34

And it's really cruel because she did have a child who died at birth, right? Because so she doesn't know that they exist. She does not. They told so many lies. So many lies. Lying liars that lie about lying, lying stuff.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:50

That's her fault. That's a lot of lying. That is a lot of lying.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:52

Yeah. Vincent is uh angry and bitter, um, now believing that his mother's dead, and he lashes out at Julius and he lashes out at Linda, and then he's basically a fuck y'all and tosses all their stuff, all their luggage, including you know, the girls' baggage, who knows when they got it, as we previously talked about. Uh, talks him, tosses it out of the car, and then uh leaves on his own to go complete the deal solo. Julius is not known about the the jet engine parts that have been in the trunk of the car. No, he's about to. Because Linda tells him is like, hey, there's this thing in the car, and now I'm really worried about Vincent's safety. Uh and so Julius leaves on his own to go save Vincent. He gets flies to Houston, and then he makes his way around town basically by feels alone. Um by that twin connection.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:46

The twin connection and Julius does something bad. He steals a car. He steals a car. He's just like Vincent now. They're more alike than you think.

SPEAKER_12 1:45:00

So he steals his car with a giant long horns on the front because every car in Texas has to have long horns on the grill.

SPEAKER_10 1:45:07

Well, you can usually find one. I bet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:45:10

And love that it had revolvers for the door handles.

SPEAKER_10 1:45:13

Yeah, yeah, that was great. I didn't notice that. That's hilarious. It really fit the stereotype of Houston in 1988 per movie.

SPEAKER_12 1:45:22

Oh, man. Vincent delivers the engine to industrialist Beat Root McKinley, uh, and he gets his suitcase full of cash. Webster shows up and kills McKinley and his assistant, and then turns his sights on Vincent. Julius arrives in his newly acquired Longhorn Mobile, and he then confronts Webster.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:48

Don't be nervous. I hate violence. Who are you?

SPEAKER_05 1:45:58

Put the gun down. I got the money. Here's your money. Here's your money. Here's your money. Here's the money. You're a goddamn millionaire. You I am never gonna forgive. Never. Open it. Open it.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:20

You were going to get killed. I was trying to distract him so he could escape.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:25

I already had escaped. I was halfway to Brazil when I felt you.

SPEAKER_14 1:46:31

So a couple things. That suitcase with all the five million in it is almost as big as Vincent. It's a big damn suitcase.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:42

It's a big suitcase. I mean, it's got five million dollars in it.

SPEAKER_14 1:46:44

It's cash. So that leads to my next question. Yeah. How much do you think a suitcase with five million dollars in it weighs? Well, I guess it depends on the denominations. What do you think those were? Like hundreds? Probably hundreds.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:58

Yeah, probably hundreds. That's a lot of hundreds. Yeah. Let's do some math. We're gonna do the math. See, if it's five million, then I'm gonna just shoot a guess and say that it is fifty thousand hundred dollar bills?

SPEAKER_12 1:47:23

Five million dollars in one hundred dollar bills weighs approximately one hundred and ten pounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:47:32

Holy cow. Okay. Well, I can see why he was struggling to carry that thing up the stairs.

SPEAKER_15 1:47:38

I don't think he could carry it at all.

SPEAKER_14 1:47:40

No, he shouldn't be able to. Movie.

SPEAKER_10 1:47:43

He's just a little guy. Yeah, I mean 100 pounds I mean. Yeah, that's pretty heavy.$500 bills.

SPEAKER_12 1:47:53

What? Are there$500 bills? No. No. What do you got?

SPEAKER_10 1:47:58

What what's it bigger than a hundred? A thousand? Okay. But they stopped printing thousand dollar bills a long time ago.

SPEAKER_14 1:48:08

Well before that, I think. Okay. So the biggest bill you can get right now is a hundred and hoping I can get it.

SPEAKER_13 1:48:21

I don't know if the mint makes thousand-dollar bills. I should make a million-dollar bill. And then give me one.

SPEAKER_12 1:48:26

Well, the largest bill ever printed by the U.S. government is the$100,000 gold certificate. It's not a bill. Okay. The highest denomination for public circulation, though, was the$10,000 Federal Reserve Note. Not a bill. Um there were$500,$1,000, and$5,000 bills produced and are still legal tender. But the$100 bill is the largest denomination currently produced for circulation.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 1:49:03

Don't you think? We learned some things.

SPEAKER_10 1:49:05

Yeah. Yeah, we did.

SPEAKER_14 1:49:07

But yeah. Facts and stats.

SPEAKER_12 1:49:09

Vincent should not have been able to lug that briefcase around.

SPEAKER_10 1:49:13

Not with one hand. Oh, definitely not running with it. No.

SPEAKER_14 1:49:16

He was chucking it down that hallway. Julius could have. Yeah, he could have. Oh, yeah. Big time. He's yeah. Arnold Schwarzenegger. I mean, he could throw Vincent through him over a wall.

SPEAKER_12 1:49:29

But so now Webster has got uh both Julius and Vincent, and Vincent has handed over the suitcase. But but Webster's still fully planning on shooting both of them, probably in the face.

SPEAKER_10 1:49:42

Yep, because they've seen his face.

SPEAKER_12 1:49:44

They've seen his face. But you know, Webster forgot about the third rule.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:51

The third rule. Third rule?

SPEAKER_03 1:49:55

Yeah. Third rule.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:13

They dropped just a shit ton of chains. That is a lot. Okay. And it's all triggered by them pulling one lever. Yes. Which they had no way to know would drop a shit ton of chains directly on Webster. They thought it would just drop the pulley. And what?

SPEAKER_05 1:50:39

Yo!

SPEAKER_12 1:50:40

Yo!

SPEAKER_05 1:50:41

Holy schmole.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:43

Yeah, it's a hot chain, bud. Yeah. And and so that we see then the shot of Webster. Well, we don't actually see Webster. We we see a pile of heavy duty chains that is taller than Vincent. Oh, it's probably taller than Vincent. Probably 12 feet high. This thing is huge. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:51:02

Which makes no goddamn sense at all.

SPEAKER_10 1:51:05

Makes no sense. No. But it's funny because the chain just kept coming. And coming and coming and coming. And coming. And he's buried under this giant mountain of industrial change.

SPEAKER_12 1:51:16

It's comical in a sense. But this was a whatever suspension of disbelief I had in this moment. Like, come on, it's gone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:51:29

I I I'm this is dumb. This this crossed the line from humor to slapstick.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:36

It sure did. Yeah. And there wasn't a like a tone of the slapstick throughout the movie until this point. Right. And then when it hits you with it, it's like, oh, we're gonna fucking hit you with it.

SPEAKER_12 1:51:46

We're gonna drop, we're gonna drop a multiple metric tons of steel chains on top of you.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:53

Right. Like, yeah. There's so many other things they could have done there, you know.

SPEAKER_12 1:51:59

I mean, and honestly, it wouldn't have been as simple as just like because Webster's standing underneath this this hook apparatus thingy. Now it's I I even just the fact they pull a handle and this thing happens seems like dumb luck. Yeah. Because who knows what the handle's for. Sure. Right. It could have turned the lights off. Yeah. Um if the if the just a hook would have fallen down and smacked him in the head, I've been like, okay, that's fine. But yeah. Tons of chain dropping from the ceiling onto this guy.

SPEAKER_10 1:52:30

Like, why? So are you saying this is the first part of the movie that was really unrealistic?

SPEAKER_12 1:52:36

It is the most, it is the most unrealistic. I I have the ability to wave my suspension of disbelief at a pretty decent clip. Yes, but but at this moment, it just got into full absurdity. This was effusive.

SPEAKER_14 1:52:55

Yes, I agree. This this was this was a lot. This was too much. Yeah. It was too much. And I liked the entirety of this movie. Up until this point. Yeah, I didn't like that point either. Yeah. I'm it like I think I am kind of in line with your thing. I'm not huge on the slapstick. Right. Right. Unless you're gonna do it the entire way. Like if you're if you're gonna go in, go all in. If you're gonna say we're doing slapstick, then make it from beginning to end. Because then I can expect it. But there was none until this point.

SPEAKER_10 1:53:31

And what made it worse was Vincent's face watching the chain come down. Like he was up and down, like his head was bobbing up and down and up and down and up and down as he was following the following the chain, falling over. So cartoonish.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:45

It was, it was. It was awful. And again, another part like we talked about earlier, they didn't need Webster.

SPEAKER_11 1:53:53

No.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:54

So if the Webster storyline wasn't in there, neither would this part. Right. And we wouldn't miss any of it.

SPEAKER_12 1:54:00

No, and but but this is this moment, this altercation between them, between Webster and the twins, is the only point their paths could directly intersect. Everything and so like they had to shoot this with them all together. But everything else could have been done with second unit photography and just added in. Yeah. And so this one scene was the only, and it's like again, I it really feels like his whole plot line just feels like someone from the studio said, We need a villain, we need something bigger, we need something they're against, and so they just wedged it in. Even though they already had two other villains, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:54:44

Or two other sets of villains. Like I said before, I think it was just we need a reason for them to leave LA.

SPEAKER_12 1:54:50

And I almost feel like And the Mom quest would have been an odd. The mom quest is why they I think initially probably left LA. This whole jet engine thing combined with uh the Webster showdown feels like it was wedged in when it didn't need to be there.

SPEAKER_10 1:55:07

Yeah, I I kinda I kind of I kinda see that. I believe that.

SPEAKER_12 1:55:11

And I almost feel like this slapstick ending because it has totally does not match with anything else, right? It really almost feels to me like a fuck you. Like you made me do this, you made me cram this stupid part into the movie. So I'm gonna do this. So you suck on this studio.

SPEAKER_14 1:55:36

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_09 1:55:38

Or someone was like, you know what would be a great idea is if you dropped a thousand tons of chain on the guy.

SPEAKER_14 1:55:45

And it's like, all right, fine. Wait, guys, listen. What if we hit like the pulley comes down and hits him on the head, and they're like, oh, perfect, that's all we need. Like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You know what would be really funny? The rest of the chain starts coming down. But then the chain just doesn't stop coming down.

SPEAKER_10 1:56:03

It's it's almost like that idea was born at the end of the night after all the beer had been drunk. Yeah. Exactly. Oh, like I like some of our podcasts.

SPEAKER_12 1:56:18

It's almost like they were sitting around listening to Metallica, drinking a lot of beer.

SPEAKER_09 1:56:24

And someone said, you know what, it'd be really funny is if the guy died with lots of heavy metal. What's heavy metal? Change, that works. That'll do it. That'll do it. Print it. Yeah. Sold. Moving on.

SPEAKER_10 1:56:40

Next song. Yeah, I think we can all agree that this scene in the movie was not done right. No. And didn't need to be there at all. No.

SPEAKER_12 1:56:53

But back in ally, uh Julius and Vincent have fully reconciled and you know, they've returned the stolen engine and most of the money uh to the authorities, uh, though it is revealed that that Julius may have kept uh a little bit for himself.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:16

Good night, Mr. Benedicts. Good night. Good night, Benedicts. Well, that's it. The last check is written. What do we have left out of the$50,000 reward?

SPEAKER_03 1:57:27

Well, after we've paid off all our debts, we have exactly$12,278.$12,278? That's terrible. That's terrible. Oh, you're just upset because I made you return a dead suitcase.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:43

Oh, the money. You mean the four million dollars? Four million dollars. I mean, just say it. Say it, is easy. Four million dollars. It's a lot of money, Jules.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:58

Vincent. I'm very proud of you.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:04

Well, I am kind of proud of myself.

SPEAKER_14 1:58:08

The four million. Yeah, four million. Not five. Yeah. The four.

SPEAKER_10 1:58:13

Eh, you know. I'm not sure. Okay, okay. I would. I I'm I'm with you. I was gonna ask. Would would you take, would you put a little bit in your pocket before you're gonna do it? I would have taken more than one.

SPEAKER_14 1:58:26

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:58:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:58:27

Because, alright, this guy, even if you're turning the suitcase over, right? Like that you know you're caught, you're busted. Yeah. This guy's not gonna sit there and count it.

SPEAKER_12 1:58:36

Well, and I don't who are you returning it to anyway? Because this five million dollars was paid out by Beat Root McKinley, who's who is a private industrialist, who is now dead.

SPEAKER_10 1:58:48

This wasn't like it was it was taxpayer money. There's no way to confirm how much money there was.

SPEAKER_12 1:58:55

Now, the jet engine or part or wherever, I don't know where that came from. Okay, fine. I get returning that to whoever. But why would you return the money? But yeah, who were you returning the money to? Right. I wouldn't ever.

SPEAKER_10 1:59:06

Well, the money is part of the story. When they return the engine, you know, they talk to the authorities, they're like, uh, this is the scenario, this is what happened. You have to have the money in there because it's part of the story, but you don't have to have the amount of the money as part of that story. I think I'm taking more than a million.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:59:23

I'm probably gonna leave a million.

SPEAKER_14 1:59:25

I that sounds about right to me. I'm gonna take the four. Yeah. Because like in 1988, especially, a million dollars is an absurd amount to drive a jet engine part from LA to Houston. Five million, like, that's a stupid business move in the first place. Like, that whole storyline's dumb. Yeah. Why wouldn't you just go get it yourself?

SPEAKER_12 1:59:55

And cut out the five million dollar mill, man. I mean, I I think we're getting into to to nitty, you know, nitpicking.

SPEAKER_10 2:00:02

So we all agree that we would hold back some money. I've I've had enough players to be nitpicking. I'm gonna be nitpicking.

SPEAKER_12 2:00:10

Yeah, I'd keep money. I would keep money. I would keep the money and I would keep more than one. Yeah. Um but but really all this serves is to show that that Vincent still he's still Vincent. Still has his little nefarious side. I yeah, and while they're still in the office kind of uh you know, commissarating about the you know, the four million dollars, they get a a surprise visit. Right. Mama mama!

SPEAKER_00 2:00:44

Mama.

SPEAKER_10 2:00:49

Yep, mom's back. Hey, mom. I recognize mom too, but don't ask me from where.

SPEAKER_12 2:00:55

Okay, I won't. Yeah, I don't know. She's from that thing. She she was had a person with a face that did that stuff. She was in stuffin' things? Stuffin' things. Stuffin' things, that's what it was. Yep. Alright, yep, good. I and if that weren't enough family. We we come to a close with the scene of the carousel where mom and Linda and Marnie are all together as both Julius and Vincent come walking up, each of them pushing their own stroller, each with a set of twins. Right. The twins had twins. The twins had twins. They laugh, they smile, it's a big happy family. And that's the movie.

SPEAKER_14 2:01:42

That's the movie. That is the movie. That is the movie. It's the movie. That's that's it. That's the end of the movie. Yep.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:50

Fien Fien Fine. Well, now that we've talked about the movie. Yep. Beer time. It's time to talk about beer number three. Beer number three. Beer number three is one that I brought to the table this evening. This is from Ineffable Brewing, somewhere in the vicinity of Minneapolis, Minnesota, uh, where I just happened to spend an evening drinking beer a few weeks ago. Um, tried pretty much everything on their portfolio, pleasantly surprised with almost all of it. And this uh this what we have right now is their deja brew, their white stout. And um this was I found to be absolutely delightful. How does this relate to the movie? Well, it's deja brew, similar to deja vu, as if you've had this experience and I feel like the twin.

SPEAKER_10 2:02:50

Like the twins. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:02:52

Very good, very good. So that's my connection.

SPEAKER_10 2:02:55

I like it. What do you guys think about the beer? I bet this was amazing out of a tap.

SPEAKER_12 2:03:03

That's exactly my thought, too. Uh, because this was exceedingly good out of the tap. Now, I will also say I drank a lot of beer that night. I drank everything on their portfolio. Uh, and so maybe, you know, who knows what leads into what and how flavors combine. But while I was there, this was I thought, oh my god, this is so good. I've got to get some crowlers to bring back to Justin and Brian. And I will say, drinking the Crowler right now, I don't know why I thought that.

SPEAKER_14 2:03:36

So I didn't want to hurt your feelings. Oh, you're not. Um, it took me about maybe my sixth or so drink to finally get the stout part. The first drinks that I had were like I didn't want to swallow. Yeah. But it's gotten better. Um, but I don't know. I can't put my finger on it. It's not. I would love to have this in person.

SPEAKER_12 2:04:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 2:04:11

I would love to have it on tap in a flight glass, maybe, instead of a 750 milliliter. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:04:21

I mean, I I I so when I was there, it was it was it wasn't a very busy night. And so I did two, I paid for two flights. And then on top of it, I built up Subsherry Poor with a bartender who was a delightful gentleman. Uh, that everything else I had not paid for, he just let me sample and try. And I even was even impressed by a few sours, which I don't normally imbibe. You I know, but they they had a few. Again, I was there and I'd already drank quite a bit of beer. So maybe, maybe I won't. If I went there tomorrow, maybe I wouldn't feel the same way. That is an appropriate disclaimer.

SPEAKER_14 2:05:07

Yeah, that is appropriate. Uh now I will say Ineffable Brewing. Kudos to you for opening during COVID. Holy shit, established 2020? Yeah. That is crazy. Oh, I took some guts. They opened in COVID and are still open.

SPEAKER_10 2:05:23

Yeah, that's nice. That is cra crazy. So I'm with you on my first my first poll was not good. I think we shared a look. We did share a look. But we tried to hide. Yeah. That's what I said. My nose was running. And but now that I'm a third of the way through it, it's better.

SPEAKER_14 2:05:48

Well, you got about 40 ounces to go. I do.

SPEAKER_10 2:05:53

Being a white stout, I yeah, it took me a while to get some of the stoutiness from it. And I don't get still don't get a whole lot of the stoutiness. I I I'm a little bit.

SPEAKER_12 2:06:07

I feel like maybe there may have been a slight bait and switch here. Or again, maybe it was just what I drank, the combination of flavors on my palate that night. When I tried it there, I really remember the coffee flavor being much more distinct. Uh, this, it's it's more, it's not bad. It's not a bad.

SPEAKER_10 2:06:28

No, it's not terrible. But well, I think it's because we're drinking it out of the can, the crowler. Yeah. When I put my nose up to the hole and smell, it's got a great aroma. It's got a good smell. And I get the coffee notes, I get that. And I think with a glass, maybe I would get the full effect and all the aroma coming through instead of drinking it from a can.

SPEAKER_14 2:06:53

The can has tickled my mustache. Can you trust a crowdler? How do you mean?

SPEAKER_10 2:06:59

That's a great question.

SPEAKER_14 2:07:00

Like this is one of those that they have the little machine that they fill up.

SPEAKER_12 2:07:04

Right, they seamed it right there. Yeah. And and the problem you always have with those is because a lot of places they they pour them out of the tap. Yeah. And they don't add additional carbonation in there like you would in a bottle or with a in a bottling line. Right. Um, and so yeah, you can get almost like a flattening within the can. And so maybe again, maybe because it's been sitting in the fridge for a couple weeks, maybe it's a it's a different effect, too. But yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 2:07:33

I don't know. But thank you for sharing. And thank you for thinking of us when you were on your uh on your your beer tour up there. I was nice.

SPEAKER_12 2:07:41

I I think you would have enjoyed it there. I think we should just take a field trip at some point. Let's just hop in the car right now. I mean, it's only eight and a half hours away. That's not that bad.

SPEAKER_10 2:07:50

Yeah, maybe we do uh an on-location podcast next time. Maybe we go up there and do it. Do that.

SPEAKER_12 2:07:56

I will say I told the bartender about our podcast. Nice. And he was very interested.

SPEAKER_10 2:08:01

Oh shit, he's gonna listen to this. Maybe we do the movie Fargo. And we go up and uh, you know.

SPEAKER_14 2:08:10

Hit the uh hit the north side of the States? Yeah, go up to Minnesota. Minnesota, Minnesota. Hey, we could reach out to Joe. We could, hey, Minnesota Joe. That's right, friend of the show. Joe could take us out and do some things.

SPEAKER_10 2:08:21

I bet he could.

SPEAKER_12 2:08:24

Alright, well, if you guys could wave your magic wand and change one thing about this movie, what would you do to make twins a better film?

SPEAKER_14 2:08:38

Mine is not a major change. Okay. Um I just add more moments of Julius experiencing the real world. I'm so with you there.

unknown 2:08:51

You know.

SPEAKER_14 2:08:54

Yeah. I thought those culture shock moments were the funniest parts of the movie. And I I would love to see more of those. Like just experiencing more things.

SPEAKER_12 2:09:03

And there were there were a lot of quick moments that they didn't draw a lot of attention to. We just saw him doing his thing, yeah, and feeling like a fish out of water, but also kind of like someone just experiencing these things for the very first time with this awe. And I think excitement.

SPEAKER_14 2:09:21

I think that was like the immersive part of the the movie, right? Because it m drew you in and made you feel like what would I feel like if this was the first time I was ever around this many people in this crazy of a city eating foods I've never eaten. Like it draws you into care about him and to to put yourself in his shoes. Yeah. And I thought that if you added some more of that, it would be great. Now, the more we've talked about it, you know, the the Webster character, they could cut that whole part out. Yeah. And it leaves you plenty of room to have these experiences, you know, and like deepen that storyline.

SPEAKER_12 2:10:00

Well, and and that ties in with my suggestion. Dump Webster.

SPEAKER_13 2:10:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:10:04

I I don't think Webster is necessary for this movie. And I think if you got rid of it, because it really it genuinely feels like it was a different movie. Almost like, I wonder whether, and part of me wonders whether they were shooting this as a different project, but didn't pan out. It's like, hey, you know what? We got all these shots with this guy over here. I think it might fit in your movie. And they just kind of crammed it in. Yeah. Because it doesn't feel like it fits. And I fully agree. I think if we get rid of Webster, it opens up space for better moments. I like it.

SPEAKER_10 2:10:35

I would have added a montage or two. Oh yeah. Yeah. You know, maybe maybe Julie's going to the beach. Maybe Venice Beach and working out with the guys on Venice Beach at the famous workout place there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That'd be kind of fun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:10:53

Or even I think when they they were doing their their suit shopping. I there have been so many movies that have. I mean, Pretty Woman had the montage of the shopping and trying in different outfits. Yeah. That was a missed opportunity. How many fun things could we have seen Vincent and Julius uh come out dressed as? Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_10 2:11:14

Yeah, Bermuda Shore. Sure. You know, a lot of 80s style stuff, punk rock. Yeah, there's a lot of things that they could have done. And and I and I agree, getting rid of the the Webster storyline, the whole jet engine, five million dollars, it really didn't need to be there. Because the the heart of the movie was them finding their family.

SPEAKER_12 2:11:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 2:11:34

And and that was the heartbeat. Everything else around that was the innocence of Julius interacting with an non innocent world and a very non innocent Vincent. Right. And that that contrast is is where the humor was. And I I would have liked to have seen more of that. I I think you're right, you guys are hit the nail on the head. Missed opportunities there for more of the good stuff.

SPEAKER_14 2:11:59

Yeah. He was sweet and innocent. Yeah. Naive. And cute. More doing nuns. He was a he was a cute giant. He was.

SPEAKER_10 2:12:11

And we need to giant a very naive giant. And yeah, I that that interplay in those moments were the best parts of the movie. Yeah. I liked it. Okay.

SPEAKER_12 2:12:21

Were you guys ready for something a little bit different?

SPEAKER_10 2:12:24

I like different. I like different things. This is a new song. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_01 2:12:35

I'm the guy.

SPEAKER_14 2:12:37

I'm the gap. I'm the gap. What do we got going on here?

SPEAKER_12 2:13:01

So this game is a simple one, gents. I'm going to present each of you with a set of actors who share the silver screen. And you have to tell me if the height gap between them was larger or smaller than the height gap between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito.

SPEAKER_01 2:13:19

Oh, how fun.

SPEAKER_12 2:13:21

When the game is done, one of you will be the winner. The other clearly forgot the third rule in a crisis situation. Oh no, I forgot already. Yep. The lever. Alright. Let's start this thing off with Justin. Alright. From Star Wars. Okay. Anthony Daniels and Kenny Baker, who played C3PO and R2D2. Okay. Is the height gap between these two actors larger or smaller than the height gap between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito?

SPEAKER_14 2:13:58

So I'm gonna go I'm gonna go smaller because I think that C3PO was shorter than Julius.

SPEAKER_12 2:14:15

What no, the height gap was bigger. Ow. Well, the height gap between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito was 16 inches. What? The height gap between Anthony Daniels and Kenny Baker is 25 inches. You're saying Arnold's only a foot and a half taller than a foot and four inches taller.

SPEAKER_14 2:14:39

The Danny DeVito?

SPEAKER_12 2:14:40

Yeah. No way. So Arnie is six foot two.

SPEAKER_14 2:14:47

Yeah, I guess that fits. And Danny DeVito is three foot tall.

SPEAKER_10 2:14:51

No, he's not.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:52

He's not.

SPEAKER_14 2:14:53

He's he's a shorter gentleman, but he's not that much shorter.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:57

He's just a big bee.

SPEAKER_14 2:14:59

Just a baby. Okay.

SPEAKER_10 2:15:03

All right, that's fine. I hope mine is Ventroyer and anybody. Brian. Yes.

SPEAKER_12 2:15:11

Andre the Giant and Mandy Petinkin, both from the Princess Bride. Is their height gap larger or smaller?

SPEAKER_10 2:15:21

So Andre the Giant was 70 feet.

SPEAKER_12 2:15:27

Yeah, he's physic. Uh-huh. And then Mandy Petinkin is an Enigo.

SPEAKER_10 2:15:32

Oh, Enigo Montoya. I don't know. Um. Well, Andre the Giant was really tall. So I'm going to say the Princess Bride folks had a bigger gap.

SPEAKER_12 2:15:49

That's right. Andre the Giant was 7'4. Mandy Batinkin was only 5'11, which means there's a height gap of 17 inches. Made it by an inch. That was close. Yeah. That was close. Thanks. All right, Justin. Uh-huh. Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd from Back to the Future. Was their height gap larger or smaller? Smaller.

SPEAKER_14 2:16:13

Hey, good one. That's right. Their height gap was only nine inches. Thanks, Braggies. They teared for me over there.

SPEAKER_12 2:16:22

Brian. Yeah. From the movie Willow. Okay. Val Kilmer and Warwick Davis.

SPEAKER_10 2:16:30

Warwick Davis was the short person. I almost said the M word. No. No. I don't think I can say midget, can I?

SPEAKER_12 2:16:39

Oh, you just did. No. He's the peck. That's the word they use now.

SPEAKER_14 2:16:43

I don't know. What is it?

SPEAKER_10 2:16:44

Is that peck? Is that worse? Peck. P-E-C-K? Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 2:16:47

Pet? Peck. He says pet? Peck. Pet?

SPEAKER_15 2:16:53

Fuck you.

SPEAKER_14 2:16:55

Are you saying Pam or Pam? I'm gonna say Pam?

SPEAKER_10 2:17:01

I'm gonna say the will the willow height gap was larger. Hey, as long as you keep giving me the shit. Nope.

SPEAKER_14 2:17:13

See, what's fucked up is you got a little person. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_12 2:17:17

That's an easy Val Kilmer was six foot even. Warwick Davis, three foot six, which means there's a height gap of 30 inches.

SPEAKER_14 2:17:25

See, that's messed up. Almost double. Because Danny DeVito is three or six inches shorter than that Willow guy. Okay. Well. All right, Justin.

SPEAKER_12 2:17:35

All right, you're up to him. From the movie Moonraker.

SPEAKER_14 2:17:41

Didn't see it. Roger Moore. Don't know him. Oh, yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_10 2:17:47

Roger Moore?

SPEAKER_14 2:17:48

No. He was a seven.

SPEAKER_10 2:17:50

He was a 007. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_14 2:17:52

Okay. Richard Keel. Oh, is he the Ah wait. Is that the De Plain guy? De Plaine, De Plaine. No. No? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_12 2:18:04

I believe it's I believe he plays Jaws. He's like a really tall guy.

unknown 2:18:09

I don't know.

SPEAKER_14 2:18:11

I'm gonna go smaller.

SPEAKER_12 2:18:17

Oh, yeah. Yeah, uh, their height gap was 13 inches.

SPEAKER_14 2:18:26

This game is hard for me because I don't know things.

SPEAKER_12 2:18:29

Alright, Brian. Yeah. From the movie Wedding Crashers. Okay. Vince Vaughn and Isla Fisher. Is their height gap larger or smaller? See, this is one I do know.

SPEAKER_10 2:18:44

If you do know, what would you choose? I mean, I know the movie. Oh, I see. I'm gonna say their height gap is larger.

SPEAKER_12 2:19:00

No. Vince Vaughn is six foot five. Island Fisher is five foot three, which means their height gap is fourteen inches, which makes it smaller.

SPEAKER_14 2:19:08

Yeah, bummer. Vince Vaughn's a tall dude.

SPEAKER_12 2:19:10

He is a tall dude. Alright, Justin. From the movie The Burbs. Okay. Henry Gibson, who played Werner, or and Courtney Gaines, who played Hans. Is her height gap larger or smaller?

SPEAKER_14 2:19:29

That was the the guy.

SPEAKER_12 2:19:34

No, no. No. It was the weird kid on the porch. Right, Hans. Yeah, and Werner was the surgeon.

SPEAKER_14 2:19:41

The dad. The doctor. The doctor. Okay.

SPEAKER_12 2:19:43

Dr.

SPEAKER_14 2:19:43

Werner. Dr.

SPEAKER_12 2:19:44

Werner.

SPEAKER_14 2:19:45

Um, I'm gonna go. Their gap was smaller. Yep, only eight inches. Eight inches. That's tiny.

SPEAKER_10 2:19:58

I know I know eight inches. Do you? I'm familiar. Yeah. Alright. Familiar. Alright, Brian. Yes.

SPEAKER_12 2:20:08

From Lord of the Rings. Okay. Ian McKellen and Elijah Wood. Is their height gap larger or smaller than Arnie and Danny DeVito? Ooh.

SPEAKER_10 2:20:25

I'm gonna say, oh, this is this is a guess. I'm gonna say it. Elijah Wood's a tiny little guy. He's petite. Is he Danny DeVito Petite?

SPEAKER_14 2:20:36

I don't know. I don't either. No, because Danny DeVito is not petite.

SPEAKER_10 2:20:44

Apparently the same is not an option here. Exactly the same. It is not. That would be a really cool trick. But no, it's not. That would be a cool trick, but it's one or the other capacity. I'm gonna say that their the height difference of the Lord of the Rings is smaller.

SPEAKER_12 2:21:08

They look much bigger on screen. But actually their true height gap is only five inches. Oh nice. Alright, Justin. Pressure's on. There it is. Will Farrell and Peter Dinklage from the movie Elf.

SPEAKER_14 2:21:34

Larger.

SPEAKER_10 2:21:38

That's not fair. You keep getting all the mid small people in the first one. You got the first one. I got that one. I only got one small person.

SPEAKER_12 2:21:46

Will Farrell, six foot three. Peter Dinklage, four foot five, that makes a height gap of 22 inches. Will Farrell's six foot what? Six foot three. Yeah, he's a tall, dude.

SPEAKER_10 2:21:56

I didn't know he was that tall. I thought Peter Dinklage would be smaller than that.

SPEAKER_12 2:22:00

How tall is he? Uh he is four foot five. Oh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:22:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 2:22:07

Alright, so this is the last one. Go see you, Brian. No, no. From Austin Powers, the spy who shagged me. Okay. Mike Myers and Vern Troyer. I was hoping I'd get an adjoining.

SPEAKER_10 2:22:21

That gap is larger. Hey! Hey, Justin. We're both winners, baby. We tied. You're tied. We're both winners. We tied. Is there a tiebreaker? There is a tiebreaker shoot.

SPEAKER_14 2:22:34

Damn it, we didn't. All right.

SPEAKER_12 2:22:37

Among the all the actors mentioned in this game, what is the height difference between the tallest and the shortest?

SPEAKER_14 2:22:47

The tallest and the shortest. Are we going in inches? Yes.

SPEAKER_12 2:22:58

26. I'm going to take the over. Can you give me a number? 27. You sound about BSh. Well, the winner is Brian.

SPEAKER_10 2:23:10

Okay, so let me give you a true number. I was going to guess by the guess the true number, I was going to guess 47.

SPEAKER_12 2:23:16

Well, that's a lot closer. Because the actual answer is 56 inches. 56. Okay. The tallest one we met them in the game was Andrew the Giant at Vern Troyer. 7'4, and the shortest was Vern Troyer at 2'8, which equals a difference of 56 inches.

SPEAKER_14 2:23:33

It's 2'8? That's right.

SPEAKER_12 2:23:35

No, that's a baby. And that, ladies and gentlemen, was My the Gap. Congratulations to Brian for most accurately navigating the highs and lows of this game and to Justin. Wow. Better luck next time.

SPEAKER_14 2:23:49

Congratulations. Oh, thank you. Yeah, that was a tough one. That was a tough one. I need to stop going first on tiebreakers. Because you always just choose one above or one below me. You know, it's the kind of prices right. One dollar. One double. I guess now it's Drew. Yeah. One double Drew.

SPEAKER_10 2:24:32

That is the new term for little people.

SPEAKER_12 2:24:34

No, that's in the movie. That's what they call them. Although actually, even in the movie, I think it's a derogatory term. I think it's actually sure. But anyway.

SPEAKER_14 2:24:43

I mean, you call anybody a pet. Pet. Bushelin' the peck and make them neck.

SPEAKER_10 2:24:51

Real, real mad. I just think we just should go back and call them midgets. Oh. Oh.

SPEAKER_12 2:24:57

How about how about we table that? And instead we pick some poison.

SPEAKER_10 2:25:02

Alright, let's pick some poison.

SPEAKER_12 2:25:04

Alright, let's start things off with movies from the same year. Would you rather watch Twins or Rain Man? Twins.

SPEAKER_14 2:25:12

Twins. Yeah, twins. Rain Man, I think, is kind of boring. Yeah. Kind of full of itself.

SPEAKER_12 2:25:19

Would you rather watch Twins or Die Hard? I gotta go Die Hard.

SPEAKER_14 2:25:30

I hate the hype on it. I really do. Oh, but I was on the train before I left the station. I'll watch it again. I'll go diehard. I'll watch it again, but if I'll I'd probably be real disappointed.

SPEAKER_12 2:25:41

Yeah. I'm gonna go diehard. Yeah. Twins or coming to America. Coming to America. Coming to America. Yeah, for sure. Twins or Who Framed Roger Abbott.

SPEAKER_10 2:25:52

Not a big Who Framed fan. I'm gonna go uh I'm gonna go twins.

SPEAKER_14 2:25:57

God, it's been probably the chain scene would have been a great fit in Who Framed Roger Abbott. Yeah. You are correct. I think I'd I'd watch Who Framed Roger Abbott because I haven't seen him forever. I'm gonna go twins. Prepare to be disappointed. I probably can't.

SPEAKER_12 2:26:20

I feel like we can't have an episode and not this movie not come up. Would you rather rather watch Twins or Beetlejuice?

SPEAKER_14 2:26:34

I'm going twins. I'm gonna go twins also. Same. I gotta be in the mood for Beetlejuice.

SPEAKER_12 2:26:39

Yeah. Alright, let's talk about some Arnold Schwarzenegger movies. Would you rather watch Twins or The Terminator? Terminator. The first one? Yeah. Twins. The first one's pretty sci-fi heavy, which I'm into, so I'm gonna go Terminator. Alright. Twins or Predator.

SPEAKER_14 2:26:59

Ooh. I haven't seen Predator in a very long time. I'm gonna go Predator.

SPEAKER_10 2:27:04

I'm gonna go Predator as well, but only because of Carl Weathers. No. The governor of Minnesota, where a beer, beer. Jesse Ventura? Jesse Ventura. Jesse the body. In that uh chain gun.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:21

Yeah. Oh yeah. Uh but I'm still gonna think I might pick twins over Predator.

SPEAKER_10 2:27:24

I get you.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:25

Twins or total recall! Total recall. Total recall.

SPEAKER_14 2:27:28

Total recall for sure. Just for the three twins.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:30

Three boobs.

SPEAKER_14 2:27:31

Yeah. Twins or kindergarten cop. Oh I'm gonna I'm gonna watch kindergarten cop. Because I would just like to see it again.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:42

I saw it not that long ago. I think I'll pick twins. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, I think I'll go twins too. Alright. Alright, let's talk about some Danny DeVito movies. Oh, alright. Twins or Batman Returns. Twins? Twins. Yeah. Uh-huh. Twins or Throw Mama from the Train.

SPEAKER_14 2:27:59

Oh, I'll go throw Mama. Really? I'll go twins. I'll go twins. I haven't seen it in so long, I want to see it again.

SPEAKER_10 2:28:04

Is that the one with uh Mrs. Fratelli from Goonies?

SPEAKER_14 2:28:07

Yep, yep. The dishes are done, man. They just shot him with a shotgun.

SPEAKER_12 2:28:12

No! That's not Throw Mama from the Train. What is that? Don't tell mom the babysitter's dead.

SPEAKER_14 2:28:19

Oh. I mean the same thing. That's a different mama movie. Those are long titles. Easy to get confused. It's crazy you knew that just from that one line. Well, of course I know from that movie. That line.

SPEAKER_12 2:28:30

That's a line that was like permeates pop culture. Well, I'm not good at pop culture. You know that. That's true. Twins or romancing the stone. I'm going romancing the stone. I'll go romancing.

SPEAKER_13 2:28:44

I mean, rom-com, right?

SPEAKER_12 2:28:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:28:48

I'm gonna break the bone in your body later.

SPEAKER_10 2:28:54

Twins or Matilda. Matilda was a good movie. Matilda was a good movie. It wasn't bad. How hot was that teacher? Yeah. Mrs. Honey? Miss Trumble? Miss Honey.

SPEAKER_01 2:29:08

Trumbull?

SPEAKER_14 2:29:10

I'll watch Matilda again. I think I'll pick twins over it. Yeah, I think I'll go twins over Matilda.

SPEAKER_12 2:29:16

I'll watch Matilda. Let's talk about a few movies with some odd couple kind of energy. Would you rather watch Twins or Planes, Trains, and Automobiles? Same. Twins or Rush Hour?

SPEAKER_10 2:29:31

I'm sorry. Can't you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?

SPEAKER_12 2:29:34

Twins.

SPEAKER_10 2:29:35

Yeah, I'm gonna go twins. Rush Hour gets annoying after the first two. It sure does.

SPEAKER_12 2:29:39

Twins or the other guys? That's with Will Farrell and uh Mark Wahlberg. Were they cops?

SPEAKER_14 2:29:47

That was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_12 2:29:49

I thought it was clever. I'm gonna go with the other guys.

SPEAKER_14 2:29:50

Yeah, I'll go with the other guys.

SPEAKER_12 2:29:52

And just a few more science gone weird kind of movies. Twins versus Junior. Twins? Twins. Yeah, I'm not gonna watch Junior. Twins or Back to the Future. Back to the Future! Or Twins versus Weird Science.

SPEAKER_14 2:30:09

I'd probably go back to Weird Science just for another visit.

SPEAKER_10 2:30:13

You know, I think my revisit of Weird Science is gonna be bad. So I'm gonna go twins. It might be a good one.

SPEAKER_12 2:30:21

Oh man, it's the battle of the Kellys. Kelly LeBrock or Kelly Preston. Right. I'm gonna give Kelly LeBrock. Okay. Weird Science. Yeah. And with that, we've picked our poison. Noise. Picked it. But now we've picked our poison. Mm-hmm. It's time to pick the winner of the Bodaker Award. Pirates Bodiker. You are under arrest. You have the right to remain silent.

SPEAKER_00 2:30:53

You gun, guns, guns, it's time to stole the seat and live.

SPEAKER_12 2:31:19

If you're new to the show, each episode we choose one worthy recipient to receive this prestigious recognition in honor of one of our favorite cinematic characters, Clarence Bodaker from Robocop. It's not an award for the best actor or whoever was on the screen the most, but the character who we think brought the most to the movie. Brian! Yo, I get to go out of the shoot here.

SPEAKER_10 2:31:45

Who is your choice for this episode's Bodtiker Award? Alright. My third choice is Marnie Mason played by Kelly Preston because she is a smoke show. Yes. My first place, my Bodticker Award winner. Who do you nominate? I think on the surface it is easy to nominate Arnold Schwarzenegger with it being his first comedic role. Stepping outside of that box, and the character he played was fun and it was goofy and all that, but I don't think you have a successful Julius without a Vincent. So my bodiker reward is gonna go to Vincent, played by Danny DeVito. I think his comedic genius and experience in this movie drove it forward and it elevated everybody else around him. So he's gonna be my bodiker.

SPEAKER_01 2:32:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_10 2:32:50

Vincent.

SPEAKER_14 2:32:51

Vincent was originally my first choice. Yep. And then I switched it to Julius.

SPEAKER_12 2:32:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 2:32:59

Do tell. And man, I like where you went. Without Vincent, Julius isn't as funny. But I really like Julius' innocence and his naivety. I I can totally agree with you there. He's sweet and kind, but he can also kick some ass. Right. You know, he was funny. Um I think he was the character that I had the most fun watching.

SPEAKER_01 2:33:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 2:33:31

And so that's where I landed with Julie.

SPEAKER_10 2:33:33

And that's kind of that's kind of the definition of the bodiker. So if that's who who you enjoyed watching the most, I totally get it. Yeah. I I can't disagree with a whole lot of what you said. But we're split.

SPEAKER_12 2:33:46

Yeah. Well, you know. See, I was gonna give my my nominee to Linda.

SPEAKER_14 2:33:55

I know it wasn't. Were you gonna give it to CSI Miami? The booth worker.

SPEAKER_12 2:34:02

Yeah. No, um it's Webster. Oh fuck you, Webster. Um fucking goddamn. Or what was the the the honeydew what was that guy's name? The the industrialist guy? The guy in Houston. Oh, Beatroot.

SPEAKER_10 2:34:20

Beatroot McKinley. Who named that character? Jesus Christ. And he his last name's McKinley, but he was the furthest thing from Irish. Beatroot. Uh no.

SPEAKER_12 2:34:34

Both are good choices. I agree. But to me, I gotta, I'm gonna sign with you, Brian. Because while you could definitely make the argument that Julius is the premise of the movie, Vincent, to me, is the movie. Okay. Without him, Twins is just a two-hour documentary about a polite Austrian man discovering Los Angeles. Vincent, I mean, he's broke, he's shady, he's fast talking, and perpetually one bad decision away from disaster. But really, that is what makes him fun to watch. And the contrast between the two is magic. And without Vincent, we have no contrast. We just have a golden doodle who just discovered hugs, which is great for a while. But Vincent makes that palpable. It's kind of like a beer that you have to have balance. Sure. And you know, you need the hops to balance out the barley. And to me, Vincent is a delightful amount of hops. Okay.

SPEAKER_14 2:35:47

Now I will say, if you're looking for balance, if you only had Vincent.

SPEAKER_12 2:35:54

Yeah. I know. I know I understand. I get where you're coming from, and maybe I didn't argue it properly. But you need to balance. It takes two to tango. You need them both. But you know me, and I like my hops. So, with that, two to one, Vincent is the winner of this episode's Bontiker Award. Good job, Vincent.

SPEAKER_00 2:36:23

Bitches leave.

SPEAKER_12 2:36:27

Well, now that we've picked our favorite character, let's take a moment and pick our favorite beer of the episode. Guys, got any strong feelings on this one?

SPEAKER_10 2:36:42

Alright, I'll go first on the beers. Go ahead. Alright, my third beer of the night. In last place, is the uh the good stuff. Good behavior? The good behavior. Um light hoppy notes, heavy seltzer flavor. Yeah. It just it didn't, it didn't sit well with me. It was too carbonated, it wasn't robust enough. I didn't get much beer beer out of it. Um so yeah, that's in third place. All right. In first place, I'm going with the tried and true course light.

SPEAKER_12 2:37:26

I know it it might seem like a surprise, but I'm with you. Yeah. I I I am I feel disappointed by myself. Because I really thought I was bringing a strong beer to the table tonight. But this Crowler let me down. And of the remaining options, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 2:37:54

It was the best beer of the night for me, too. I think the Crowler is what doomed your selection. I think out of the tap, this beer's probably amazing. You know, sitting in the Crowler, being in a can, it doesn't do it justice. Yeah, the try the true old guard of the Coors Light, I think, wins the night for us.

SPEAKER_14 2:38:13

I find this so funny because when I do win, it's always the best of the worst. But I'm right there with you. Alright. So Coors Light was our favorite beer of the episode. Congratulations, Justin. You brought the best beer of the night. It's not gonna do well in a bracket challenge, but that's fine. It has its place, though. It does. You know? It does.

SPEAKER_12 2:38:42

Alright, so now that we we've got that covered, what do you guys say we move on to some final thoughts and beer scores?

SPEAKER_14 2:38:49

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_12 2:38:50

Alright. Alright, who wants to kick it off?

SPEAKER_14 2:38:52

Justin, why don't you kick us off tonight? Alright. So Twins was a genuinely fun watch. I found myself giggling at a lot of different moments throughout the movie. Of course, being a film from the late 80s, there's plenty to pick on. The story isn't remotely believable and it's full of plot holes, but honestly, I didn't mind them one bit because I was just enjoying the ride. From a technical standpoint, the lighting choices were a little odd in places. Some of the night scenes, and I don't know if you guys noticed this or not, they looked like they were shot under black light because anything white in the frame was glowing. The camera work wasn't anything ext extraordinary, but it also wasn't distracting either. The acting was fine. But Danny and Arnold really stole the show. Most of the other characters and performances kind of fade into the background compared to those two. In the end, Twins is kind of like Julius and Vincent themselves. A weird combination that somehow works. I would absolutely watch Twins Again if it come what happened? I don't know. I would absolutely watch Twins Again if it came across if I came across it on a lazy Sunday afternoon. But like Seth says, everything is better with two beers, but I'm gonna need four. Four beers!

SPEAKER_10 2:40:29

Alright, Brian, how do you feel about it? Alright, well, at first glance, Twins is pure 80s comedy. Laugh out loud moments, absurd situations, and a pairing so mismatched it's impossible not to smile. But beneath the gags in the physical comedy, there's something quite touching. A story about family, connection, and discovering that love that can show up in the most unexpected forms. You know, I'm a bit of a victim of nostalgia with this one. I remember watching it as a kid. I remember when I watched it as a kid. I remember enjoying it. I remember the laughing, I remember the feel-good. And so that part of the nostalgia really makes some of the negative things in this movie disappear from me. You know, even in a world that was trying to create perfection, it's the imperfections, the laughter and the bonds that we make along the way that truly define family. Twins may make us laugh first, but it reminds us to feel too. And I think the wholesome part of that, especially like I said, the part where Julius talks to Vincent about Vincent being the side effect of the experiment. I I I really like that. I I think uh it was really wholesome and pretty neat. So I like this movie. My beer rating, I'm gonna give her a three. Alright. Alright, three beers.

SPEAKER_12 2:42:07

Alright, well, overall, I I gotta say Twins has a lot going for it. First off, Arnold actually pulled it off. He did. For his first real comedy, the guy shows he's got legitimate timing. And and playing Julius as this earnest, hyper polite superhuman I mean really works because Arnold commits to it completely. There's no winking at the camera, he just plays it straight and does it really damn well. On the opposite side, you've got Danny DeVito, who is basically the perfect counterweight. Uh he's a walking disaster, a fast talking hustler with terrible instincts, and DeVito milks every second of it. Um and the chemistry between the two of them is really what makes the movie work. But the problem about this movie is that the movie around them is pretty damn thin. I get it. The plot is basically a road trip with a jet engine in the trunk for reasons that never really make sense. The romantic subplots are are kind of truthfully forgettable, despite Kelly Preston. 100%. And the nun. And the villain shows up from what feels like a completely different movie and then disappears under a ton of giant fucking chains. It's one of those movies where you can tell they started with the great premise and then built the rest of the movie afterwards. And what they ended up with is kind of a camel, a horse designed by committee. It's not a bad movie at all. I will definitely watch it again because the leads do carry it, and there are plenty of funny moments, but they'd be a lot funnier with four beers in my belly. Alright. Yeah. 443. 443. 443. And for those who are you know care about such things, that gives it an average score of 3.67. Which puts it tied for fifth in our movies we've watched to date with the burbs. Okay. And Fire in the Sky.

SPEAKER_14 2:44:39

Alright.

SPEAKER_12 2:44:40

Uh all of these movies are a third of a beer behind Pretty Woman. Mm-hmm. And a third of a beer ahead of Uncle Buck.

SPEAKER_10 2:44:53

Not too shabby. No. Yeah. I think that's a pretty good spot for it. Right. Hey, thanks guys for watching this movie and talking about this one. This this one this one meant something to me as a kid.

SPEAKER_12 2:45:04

Thanks for bringing to the table.

SPEAKER_10 2:45:05

It was really fun to go back and rewatch. It was. And I wasn't as disappointed as I was afraid it might be. You know what? I will say it was a fun first watch. Cool.

SPEAKER_14 2:45:16

Well, hey guys.

SPEAKER_12 2:45:19

What if?

SPEAKER_14 2:45:20

What if?

SPEAKER_12 2:45:21

What if they wanted to make a sequel to Twins? Okay. And they're like, hey, regular guys. What what should this movie be? Justin, you had the best beer of the night.

SPEAKER_14 2:45:36

Why don't you kick off our brainstorming session? You know what I would say to those guys? Yeah. I'd say, hey guys. Yeah. I got something for you. Oh yeah, tell them. Tell them.

SPEAKER_12 2:45:44

Tell them all about it.

SPEAKER_14 2:45:46

It turns out the experiment didn't produce twins. Oh no. It produced triplets. Oh. There's a plus one. So now Julius and Vincent have to track down their third brother. Oh man. Maybe sister. I don't know. Maybe. We don't know. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Only discover. Only to discover. He or she inherited all of the worst personality traits. Oh! So they're a dick. This could very well be sociopath. Psychopath. Serial killer. Oh man. We don't know. Yeah. But we will find out.

SPEAKER_10 2:46:32

We'll find out. Well, I guess that's what the movie is for. So it's interesting that you go in that direction because there was an actual sequel to this movie pitched. No way. Oh yeah. Was it really? There was. Triplets? And it was triplets. Oh my gosh! I mean, it seems like the obvious choice. And do you know who is cast as the third? Who? Eddie Murphy. No. Yep. Why? So the third was going to be Eddie Murphy. Well, I guess, I mean it makes sense. You gotta have tall, you gotta have small, you gotta have black. You know? We're covering all the bases here. But I always wondered if the setting would be maybe I don't know. In the ghetto? And so it's a situation that that Vincent isn't familiar with. Uh-huh. And of course, Julius is, you know, naivete, he wouldn't be familiar with it. So I don't know what direction they were gonna go with that, but that's that's the direction the the sequel was going to. They had it casted and everything. They just never did it.

SPEAKER_12 2:47:43

All right, all right. I'm gonna say let's let's take this a totally, you know, let's take the premise we we've been working on. But I really would make this a fully fish out of water. They find their black brother in Hong Kong. Wow. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:48:04

All right.

SPEAKER_14 2:48:05

I don't know why. I just think it'll be funny. Like, there's gonna be some kind of like Yakuza, like mafia. Oh, yeah, there has to be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:48:13

Yeah. Let's say that he is like a action hero. Yeah, because he's great, sociopath. Uh-huh. You're right. To go back to your butt, he's gotta be a sociopath. So he's a serial killer in Hong Kong. All right. Connected with the Yakuza or some form of organized crime. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 2:48:32

He's like their hitman. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And he's just killing people all over the place. And so they need to stop them from the killing? I think they just need to show them what family is. So he stops on his own. That's all he needs is family. He just needs family. Right. Family solves it all. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:48:52

You need a Christmas tree and a Thanksgiving dinner. They need, though, another Mason sister. Another what? Another Mason sister. Barney and Linda. You're so right. Barney and Linda. I mean, we they're not twins. They might have another sister. You never know. Right. And so they have a sister that they'll introduce to their black brother in Hong Kong.

SPEAKER_10 2:49:16

Maybe. Or maybe those relationships didn't quite pan out. Or maybe there's a horrible car crash. And so they they discover new love interests in Hong Kong. Maybe one of them is the nun. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_14 2:49:34

The nun. The nun shows fall back. Yes. Reunite, man. It feels so good. I mean, couldn't the nun have technically been like 18? No.

SPEAKER_12 2:49:45

I don't know. Well, she's a teacher. Right. So I would think she still has to have some degree of education beyond high school. That's true.

SPEAKER_10 2:49:53

So the nun moved to honk. Yeah. Maybe she's so disgraced after the controversy. She got kicked out, and then she moved to the far east.

SPEAKER_12 2:50:07

In a soul-searching journey to discover herself. Maybe she is the kingpin of the Yakuza.

SPEAKER_14 2:50:15

Oh my goodness. Maybe she turned to Buddhism. Maybe. And then she took over the Yakuza by fronting as a Buddhist. Okay.

SPEAKER_10 2:50:27

So if we do that, so the Yakuza is a Japanese organized crime. So maybe this happens in the world.

SPEAKER_14 2:50:34

Maybe it happens in Tokyo instead of the United States. I don't know. I just heard that name from Grand Theft Auto. Okay. So how do we bring this all to a close? Uh everyone dies.

SPEAKER_10 2:50:47

Love it! Except except Arnold. He goes back to the island.

SPEAKER_14 2:50:54

Under a giant pile of rubber chickens. Oh, oh. The entire, like they're they're on a boat trying to escape, and they blow up the boat, but he, like, everybody dies, but he flies across and then he lands in the water and he just floats back to the island he originally came from. And he wakes up on the on the shore and he's like, oh.

SPEAKER_10 2:51:18

He's swimming, but it looks like a sea dew racing through the water. He's got flash Gordon right on his back.

SPEAKER_12 2:51:29

Space sea dew. It's just Arnie. A full circle, gentlemen.

SPEAKER_10 2:51:33

All the way back to the beginning. I like it. Let's print it. Print it.

SPEAKER_12 2:51:38

Well, I think uh that's gonna do it for this episode of the regular guy movie show. We navigated genetic experiments, cross-country road trips, a jet engine in a Cadillac trunk for reasons that remain questionable, and one of the most baffling sets of twins in movie history. If you enjoyed hanging out with us, make sure to follow, subscribe, leave a review, or just start walking around your local gym telling people you're the result of a top secret genetic experiment and that all the bad stuff was given to your brother. Eventually, someone might know what the fuck you're talking about. If you want to keep the conversations going, hit us up on the socials and tell us what you think about twins. Did it hold up for you? Does the comedy still land? And most importantly, who is your boniker winner? We genuinely want to know mostly so we can evaluate your answer with the cold efficiency of a 1980s genetic lab. Thanks for listening! Thanks for drinking along with us, and as always, be kind rewind.

SPEAKER_07 2:52:43

The regular guy movie show talking flicks. Here we go.

SPEAKER_10 2:53:07

Yeah. Who was the hottest teacher you guys ever had? Oh my god. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_14 2:53:14

I was in high school. Yeah, same. Uh she was my English teacher. Her name was Miss Pashke. Yeah. Miss Pashke. She was like this kind of like she was young, but she was like a hippie chick. Okay. She wore these crazy skirts all the time. Tight tops. Short, like chop blonde hair. Super hot. And I actually wanted to ask her out on a date on the last day of school my senior year. Because I was 18. Oh, yeah. It would have been legit. And I chickened out. I didn't go through with it. But Miss Pashka was hot.

SPEAKER_12 2:53:51

Yeah? Yeah. How about you, Seth? Oh. In high school, Miss Mayfield. Mayfield. She was she was uh our math teacher. She was uh I think this was it was probably like her first teaching job out of college. Oh, so she was a youngin'. She was young and she was hot, and she knew she was hot. Oh, okay. And I'm pretty sure she knew that we knew she was hot and seemed to really want us to make sure we knew that we knew that she was hot. Uh-huh. I don't know if any of that made sense, but she was hot. She fucking knew it. She showed it off. Pushing the boundaries of what was acceptable for a teacher to wear back in the 90s.

SPEAKER_10 2:54:37

Oh, that's awesome, especially in high school. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_12 2:54:40

That's great. So many of my early impressions of what a woman was were based on Mrs. Mayfield. Or uh Miss Mayfield. I don't know if it's a Mrs. at any point, but Ms. Mayfield.

unknown 2:54:55

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_10 2:54:56

Smoke show. Very cool. You mine was early in the game. Yeah. My first love of my life was my fourth grade teacher, Mrs. Sheila Ballard. Damn. Fourth grade. I remember we had to write journals. We had to do a journal entry once a week. She's none. No, she was not. And this is just, you know, non-sexual. I mean I was in fourth grade. Um, I remember writing in my first journal entry, my teacher is really cute. Oh. Not knowing, not knowing that she would read all her journal entries.

SPEAKER_14 2:55:34

This is my private journal. Right.

SPEAKER_10 2:55:37

Yeah, so that was uh that was interesting. That was Sheila Ballard. Her uh she forgot her lunch one day, and her husband came to school to drop it off for her, and it broke my heart. And you were like, fuck that guy. Yep, broke my heart. Peace shit.

SPEAKER_14 2:55:51

My lady. Mrs.

SPEAKER_10 2:55:52

Ballard did you find his murder? Sitting there right there in the class.

SPEAKER_12 2:55:58

I don't know whatever happened to her. To her husband. But if if anything any ne'er dwelling came about his way.

SPEAKER_10 2:56:08

Right. So the best way to do that is you bury them vertically and then you put an endangered plant over the top so they can't dig it up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 2:56:17

Yeah. That's smart.

SPEAKER_11 2:56:19

That's so smart. You've given no thought to this whatsoever. None whatsoever. No. Sheila, if you're out there, I still think of you.

SPEAKER_12 2:56:28

And if your husband met an untimely end, don't try it.

SPEAKER_15 2:56:34

Don't come looking at me.